Triton ends there bid for a perfect regular season after being exposed on there home court 59- 55..

This is part one!!!!!

TBLA, on Feb 6 2010, 10:13 PM, said:

I'm confused. And who said we were bidding for a perfect regular season? Please, toss on the bulletin board material. Triton knows how to use it.

first off, congratulations to Laville on a great win for them. Finally got to make it to a game and i must be bad luck lol. Triton started off slow tonight and never really got going. It was pretty close the whole way. Laville shot 64% from the field and 61% from 3 pt land. Granted Triton left them with a lot of good looks, but still, those are some pretty amazing numbers. I think we definitely overlooked this game as we came out very flat and never came out of it. Griff being out definitely effected us tonight, but we hurt ourselves a lot. Bano gets benched for the majority of the 4th quarter after cussing right in front of an official, then making a comment to Coach Edison (I think). Coach Groves left him out until there were about 12 seconds on the clock, and we were up by as much as either 8 or 10 in the 4th. It was an exciting but ugly game. Triton had 19 turnovers tonight while Laville had 23. On a bright note, Yeo played great tonight with 16 points and 2 rim rattling dunks. A disappointing night for the Trojans, but we were bound to have a night like this at some point. Once again congrats to Laville and Coach Edison on a huge win for their program.

Exposed to what? We lost last year, and the year before, and made it to state both times. It was a tough loss, but you have that. Don't quite see what the big deal is. Laville played a great game, and we didn't. It happens.

Right, "exposed" just like Bowman was "exposed" last year without their best player...Clearly, neither Bowman or Triton are the best in the North, because we lost games without our best players...

Can you please expound on how Triton was exposed tonight?

mcdoffer, on Feb 6 2010, 09:47 PM, said:

I would say you cannot "expose" a team that is missing one of its starters against a quality team can you.....huh? Big difference losing last season to Triton and this tonight.

Uh Oh..looking like some fools with your pants on the ground...!!!!

vikingnation, on Feb 6 2010, 10:55 PM, said:

What difference? The bigger difference is that Bowman has the bench to replace Marerro and Triton has NO ONE to replace Carpenter. Marerro is not the best player on that team. Was this a tournament game? I'm still confused.

Another difference, Bowman's season ENDED with that loss last year, Triton's does not. I understand the bitterness, maybe Bowman will grow up before this season's tournament.

Maybe Triton will play Bowman with their rings on this year, and Griff's shot will be off, but, I doubt it.

With all the thrash talking TRITON has done this season in lue of BOWMAN...I think the pressure is on Triton to try to prove they weren't flukes like alot know they are...When you are good..you don't need anyone to tell you this...you go out and play the game...You don't sour others road to make yours look like it's brighter..it's the principle sir..so it's ok...Bounce Back and Continue looking up to BOWMAN...!!!!

TBLA, on Feb 6 2010, 11:17 PM, said:

2 state title apperances and one state title in the last 2 years and we lose one game and we are now flukes. Congrats you win the award for the dumbest post of all time. And if Bowman makes it to regional this year you should LOOK UP at the banners.

trojans, on Feb 6 2010, 11:27 PM, said:

True. Bowman looked down to us last year, and failed to realize we were above them! Please, do the same this year. Oh crap, I forgot regular season losses mean your season is over. Wait, we didn't get rings for losing 2 and 3 games the last 2 seasons..............................................................

oh, we did.

We'll give Bowman a ring for Triton losing tonight, that's what they want. It would just make an "upset'' all the more sweeter this year.

Learn from your lost Triton..it will only make you better!!!!

TBLA, on Feb 6 2010, 11:46 PM, said:

Still waiting for an answer to the question of where we were exposed.

I wasn't at the game but im sure laville had one of those shooting nights from 3 again

They were down 30 points with 2 minutes left to North Judson and only lost by 7, couldnt imagine if they actually showed up the rest of that game

hoopswizard23, on Feb 7 2010, 12:36 AM, said:

They shot over 60% from behind the arc and over 60% from the field.

haha gotta love "da region"........as other people have said, still waiting to hear where we were exposed...and thanks for the advice TBLA, hopefully we will learn from this loss and improve from it...i'm glad the rest of this state thinks this is the end of our season because i was really hoping this team would drop a game like this. A loss always makes you evaluate things and realize where you need to make changes. Coming from a player on the '08 team, I truely don't think we would have ran the table had we not lost those games to Rochester and Valley. I just hope these guys can take this and realize that they aren't unbeatable and need to work their butts off until this season is over. As far as everyone who wants to pretent like Triton is no longer a contender because of this lose, I'm glad you finally got your chance to try to tear this team down, glad it could make you feel so good to see these kids lose

Just let TBLA have his day. HE won't answer any of your questions because he only comes on here to hate on the Trojans. Still a little bitter about last year huh buddy. Just remember until further notice Triton 1 Bowman 0.

TBLA, on Feb 6 2010, 11:17 PM, said:

Isn't "souring others road" precisely what you would be doing by pointing out that Triton lost? I don't see why any Bowman supporter would even be worried about Triton when the talk is about whether or not Bowman is the best team in the state, not just 1A. If what pretty much every Bowman supporter has said is true, they have way too much talent for any 1A team to beat them and Triton may or may not even be the next best thing. Bowman is the favorite. They are no more or less the favorite because Triton lost a game at the beginning of February. The real tests will come in a few weeks. Hard to believe a "media" member has such class to come and rub the Triton fans face in a loss and call them "fools with their pants on the ground." Obvious to me who the fool is here. Bowman may win state, but it isn't going to make YOU classy.

semajekart, on Feb 6 2010, 10:17 PM, said:

True Im a victim of that!!

vikingnation, on Feb 6 2010, 10:55 PM, said:

A team this 5-9 with that weak of a schedule is far from quality.

semajekart, on Feb 6 2010, 11:12 PM, said:

trojans, on Feb 6 2010, 11:27 PM, said:

The arrogance and stupidity coming from the Triton camp is laughable and a joke, you can tell you guy have never had any success before because you can't handle the little bit you have had. Your really talking smack to a Bowman fan because you beat them on your home court last year by 2 points and they didn't even have their best player and NO SENIORS. This is only Bowmans 2nd year in the IHSAA and your talking to them like your LCC and they are Clinton Praire or something.

Semjakart are you saying Triton has no depth? Based on what I can tell this game was a fluke, but it also shows that if Carpenter (who to me isn't that good anyways, just a smart player and stand still shooter who works hard) get in foul trouble or hurt, Triton can lose to ANYONE. As a Triton fan that would be scary to me. And Ill say this you do now have a target on your back from teams in your area and sectional expect people to play all out to beat you. I have witnessed it happened to me and my alma mater many a time.

Trojans-What Banners? You win one title and all of a sudden your Muncie Central? You have 1 Banner, just like Waldron, just like Hauser and just like Oregon Davis, there are no BANNERS, as in plural. Id love to see the look on your faces when Bowman thrashes you in your own gym and lets you know about it. (and trust me they will) They have alot motivation after they hose job they got in Bourbon last year and they haven't forgotten about it.

Where were all you fans on here and the others boards before 2008? Where will you be when Triton's run is over? Will you dissapear like the Rockville and TC fans and others before you?

My brothers goes to college with one of the 08 Triton kids and they are friends, he tells me he is a very nice guy and always talks about how they were able to be very good but very fortunate and lucky to win that state title and have this little run theyre having now. Perhaps you guys could learn some humilty from your former players.

FWIW Triton has beaten 1 team in the Sagaron top 100. In no way shape or form are they prepared for Bowman Academy.

Anyways no one has said whats wrong with Griff? How long is he out?

I understand you don't want to lose you board "superiority" either. I will say I had no clue about message boards until I was at least a junior in high school. Guess the word spreads.

Triton is prepared for Bowman. They played them last year, and were prepared too. We play the same teams this year as we did last year? Mostly?

Triton's 2008 team was as classy as they come. Every team that wins state needs some luck. To be able to run twice in a row, and follow with a season like this, considering how much we've lost in players, is not a fluke.

Griffyn has suffered a concussion. Had one in football as well. He should be good to go for sectionals. And you think he's just a shooter? Please, pressure him, play him man-to-man, and he drops 30 a night. Teams tried it, and failed. Just because you're an "athlete" doesn't make you a ball player. If you're a player, you can play. And Griff, that kid can flat out play. He even manages many steals and blocks, for not being an "athlete".

I found this board in 07 before Triton's state win. Before that I had no idea it was here. Had I known I would have been on here sooner. Some of the posters are a joke and just try to instigate stuff.

Agreed 474. That is all TK is about. Just runs his mouth and blurts out idiotic things. Just don't respond and he will get bored.

trojan1, on Feb 7 2010, 04:54 AM, said:

That is the silliest statement you could make...The table has turned and now you are suffering a loss...Stay motivated...5 points is nothing like what you are going to experience!!!!!!! You get on these boards boasting about beating a little Argos team by twenty...and winning a BI-County Tournament that is not competitive at all...all that is bananas..The expose thing came from another board when Triton tried to scrutinize Bowman at every position...but I'm sure you have a rebuttal for your actions...Save your lame come backs...You don't have a voice with me! The only thing funny to read about is how you all BASH your own team and everyone sees you...Your players mouthing off at the ref's becuase of a call..acting out like they are little kids and you all get on here and portray like TRITON is a powerhouse with only ONE BANNER hanging in HOW MANY YEARS OF Existence..get real...You want respect but you all don't respect yourselves....As far as bashing Triton..no bashing..as for seeing them fail...I wish all the kids well in every aspect of there lives..to bad so many idiots get on here and pump the kids up so bad that no one likes them...Sometimes people should shut up and not say anything...no one knows how stupid you are until you open your mouth and confirm it...!

semajekart, on Feb 6 2010, 11:35 PM, said:

March 13

TBLA, on Feb 7 2010, 05:07 PM, said:

Yeah???

Where were we bragging about beating Argos by 20 and winning bi-county? As 474 said on another thread, find a post that says Triton is the best team and that we will beat Bowman. I'd like to see it too. And who justified our point guard's behavior last night? I sure didn't. And I don't think most on here do either. I don't care who you play for, when you do something like that, I'll point it out. Go ahead and bash the bahavior, I don't condone it either. Just don't throw a pissy-fit when someone points out something similar with Bowman. Bowman fans are very hippocritical, and often post in ways that they "think" we post. They draw their own pictures, and then toot their horn to them. We often get lost trying to figure out where you find all these conclusions that we supposedly make. And then when we call you out or ask a question, no response. Weird.

semajekart, on Feb 7 2010, 05:14 PM, said:

We have no reason to toot our own horn..EVERY ONE on every board will tell you... BOWMAN hasn't bashed Triton..not once all year...Wish I could say the same for your side....And far as you calling us out..Kick Rocks with that tough guy!

TBLA, on Feb 7 2010, 05:35 PM, said:

Did you forget your previous post already?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Another example of beating around the bush. I will no longer respond to ignorance.

What's the over/under on how long will it be until TBLA deletes his posts?

mLtwo4, on Feb 7 2010, 05:42 PM, said:

He'll disappear for a day, and post on a different name. I think he's catching on that we've already caught on. I don't know why I keep responding to it. Entertainment, I guess.

semajekart, on Feb 7 2010, 02:53 PM, said:

Board Superiority? Please, we never had any. All of you continue to watch LCC sports programs rack up Sectional, Regional and State Titles and then act like it didn't happen. Looking at your schedule your not prepared for Bowman, you act as if Bowman is the exact same team as they were last year. Not even close.. at all. They have experience, are better players and will have Marrero. (So id think) Though considering the luck Triton has had over the last few years I could see 2 or 3 of Bowmans starters getting hurt the week before they play. Did I say your 09 run fluke? Where and when did I say this?

Griff is a good little player nothing more nothing less, 30 a night lol? He wouldn't score 6 points on me (sorry but thats how I generally evalute how good a kid is offensivley) Id be interested in seeing him play against some top notch competetion, but Triton schedule does not allow for that. Who is he playing AAU with this summer? A good summer and he could be getting some serious NAIA looks, anyone who can shoot will get some looks.

trojans, on Feb 7 2010, 04:09 PM, said:

Idiotic things? No I say the truth and you don't like it.

TBLA, on Feb 7 2010, 05:05 PM, said:

Great Post, couldn't have said it better myself.

The Mottabamlo kid (Tritons PG) was one of the coolest customers I had seen last season, he ran his team and was always in control. Is he the kid who mouthed off to the ref? What did he do? That seems out of his character.

Carpenter is out until sectionals? Groves and Co. could use that as a positive and get other kids PT and put them in pivotal roles and a chance to step up.

This loss is a little surprising, but not unbelievable. I don't know what Laville's story is this year, but they gave Rochester a run for their money a few weeks ago. I know Rochester isn't as good as last year, but we have beaten Laville every year for quite a while now. The only way they kept it close with us was by hitting their 3's, which sounds like what they did to Triton.

TBLA: You might think Triton fans are classless, but are they the ones starting topics about Bowman? Ok, we get it. You guys felt like you got screwed last year. Welcome to the IHSAA. You do realize Triton had no part in this, except they 1) they played you, 2) they hosted it. However, all decisions (as far as I know) were from IHSAA officials and appointees. Unless the Triton AD paid the ref to give Marrero 2 T's in the first game so he had to sit out the second, then it is not really a story anymore.
Bowman is a great team, and Triton will have to bring their 'A' game to beat you guys. However, they have to get there first, as do you guys. You are a great team; not invincible. You could write a book about great teams that never won a title...

Name the time and place. Griffyn will be there. He plays AAU in Ft. Wayne. Not sure what team, but I can find out. I'll promise you he was the best player on that team, and he put up 30 more than once this summer. Do you know his average this season when teams play us man? (Not to mention, he doesn't play the 4th quarter in those games.) He averages 20+ on a team with no others averaging double digits. He will be our school's career scoring leader. You don't think he's keyed on every night. That, too, is not luck, or a fluke. You lost all credibility, if you had any to begin with.

I'll let you retract the statement, and not judge you. And I don't think I'm the only one that thinks that was absolutely outrageous. I've personally witnessed Griffyn light up one of Triton's best defenders ever, and I gave him help. He can score 6 with his eyes closed.

As far as our PG, he's been known to have a temper. Just doesn't show when you're winning. Last night got to him.

Nevermind.

semajekart, on Feb 7 2010, 10:01 PM, said:

Who in the Hell are you to be calling out people about credibility? Son, Ive been around more great coaches and players, and have forgot more about basketball than you know. Im way past you on all that being keyed on and what not crap, I know exactly how to play against it. Ill be coaching one of the top AAU teams in the country, should I pick up Griff to enhance my squad? LOL, No Seriously find out his AAU team Id like to see how he does in an open setting with college coaches around. Heck we might play him. Some kid who can't play basketball like you is never going to get me to retract my statement, Carpenter is what he is. A Product of the system who is a smart kid, who can shoot and know how to play the game, and gets the most out of what talent he has. Come to think of it I respect the hell out of him and kids like that, (wish I had some on my team) Nothing wrong with that, I have seen tons in my days. But you make him out to be an all-stater who a team can ride to a State Championship.. Na He would be a great role player on a championship team though.

TitanKnight, on Feb 8 2010, 12:32 AM, said:

http://indianabasketballdigest.com/index.p...ost&p=63698

Muda69, on Feb 8 2010, 06:08 AM, said:

Another irrelevant, pointless post by Muda69. I see you haven't taken Ballhawks advice yet.

TBLA, Find me a post where any Triton fan stated they were the best team in the state and beat Bowman. Find me a post where someone bashed Bowman. I know some posted where they saw some weaknesses, but other than that I don't see anyone bashing Bowman. Bowman is a great team, with great athletes. They probably will win state.

Bashing Triton, I think starting this thread did. I just heard this, and I want to know if it is true or not. Does Bowman's practice squad wear Triton jerseys?

TitanKnight, on Feb 8 2010, 08:18 AM, said:

You need to look at your own posts when using (for you) big words like irrelevant and pointless. You are the individual who needs to heed the good Ballhawk's advice, not I. That is if you truly aspire to reach the next level in your coaching career.

Muda69, on Feb 8 2010, 09:18 AM, said:

No, Ill take advice from those who have been there and done that when it comes to my coaching career. Not someone with an agenda and "axe to grind" with myself/alma mater, and genereally anything that is succesfull in prep sports. Remeber Ballhawk has been there and done that, and he was talking to you!

TitanKnight, on Feb 8 2010, 09:29 AM, said:

Obviously you haven't been heeding all of that advice.

TitanKnight, on Feb 8 2010, 09:29 AM, said:

Coaching just AAU isn't much of a coaching career.

Fanman, on Feb 8 2010, 11:26 AM, said:

Oh yes it is. Do you realize the all-mighty, godly athletic, all-knowing, excessive IQ'd, only-missed-two-shots-in-his-life Jimmy Chitwood players he coaches?

Better yet, he holds them to under 6 points by himself every time they scrimmmage.

Not taking his side but he coaches high school basketball too, just saying before you guys get to carried away.

Muda69, on Feb 8 2010, 11:04 AM, said:

And you would know this how?

Fanman, on Feb 8 2010, 11:26 AM, said:

No $hit sherlock, coaching AAU is fun because you get to help kids get better and get scholarships, and be around basketball, as well as travel.

semajekart, on Feb 8 2010, 11:46 AM, said:

Rip on AAU all you want, but I have seen it help a TON of kids not only improve their game but earn college scholarships.

TitanKnight, on Feb 8 2010, 12:11 PM, said:

Not disagreeing one bit. I just hope you are able to communicate with them on a same-level basis. Can't imagine how degraded those kids could be after your superior being smacks them in the face.
I hope you are really able to teach those kids, as well as make them better.

semajekart, on Feb 8 2010, 12:20 PM, said:

You're signature is truly a joke.

LCCalum04, on Feb 8 2010, 12:35 PM, said:

It's meant to be. I'm sure TK laughed........

Have a nice day. Enjoyed it.

semajekart, on Feb 8 2010, 12:40 PM, said:

I laughed at you, not with you.

TitanKnight, on Feb 8 2010, 12:43 PM, said:

Intended.

Triton will not be within 10 of Bowman if Triton is fortunate enough to play them.

sectional 18, on Feb 8 2010, 01:03 PM, said:

Ok. I'll pass it on. Don't think they've heard that one yet.

Im sure they know they will be the underdog.....there is no one in class 1a or 2a that would be within 10 points come tourney time......and there would be a good chance that they would win 3a and 4a as well.......Does that mean I hate Triton, NO, it is just BOWMAN is that much above the rest of the field.....you know how TIGER was before he got stupid around 2004!!!!!

Everytime I read a TK post I feel I get dumber and dumber. Is there an ignore poster button on this site. His stupidity and arrogance is getting really old.

TitanKnight, on Feb 8 2010, 12:32 AM, said:

Chill out.

Son.

77Jimmie, on Feb 8 2010, 01:21 PM, said:

Forgot to comment about being a product of the "system". He's definitely not that. Of all our players and families, I'd put he and his dad up there with those not fully behind our "system". Griff knows how to play, and he'd be great on any team. Triton's "system" is not let one kid score 20, and no one else get 10. That's not what it was when we had success the last two years. Griff is good enough, that Groves knows we need to ride him and Bano as long as we can, and Clay will get his in the meantime. I think it's our strength this year. But, by no means is Griffyn a system player. He can get his own. I think you're confused with Randy Davis.

trojans, on Feb 8 2010, 12:20 PM, said:

I believe there is an ignore button, there is for the football site.

This is too good.

Trojan474, on Feb 8 2010, 05:38 PM, said:

Would you rather come on here and be bored out of your mind??? Thoughts on the upcoming rematch with Bremen anyone?

With Grif coming back the game could get out of hand early again. I would assume Bremen will come out with allitle fire after the beating they took last time. I just hope all the drama from Sat. is behind us. I'm kinda glad I missed that one.

I just find it funny that these trash talkers think that winning this year will some how prove a point about last year. Since Triton is a real school, they had kids graduate and are not on the team anymore. This year's team is not last years. So beating them this year does not somehow vindicate last years humiliation. Its history, in the books, those two teams don't exist anymore. What we have is the 2010 version of Bowman and the 2010 version of Triton. You can never take away that Triton defeated a team that should have run them out of the gym, no matter how much smack you talk.

Two words for you about last year SCORE BOARD.

And yes I know scoreboard is one word, that was a little joke for those of you not quick enough to catch on. which might just be the person that started this thread.

HoBCat, on Feb 8 2010, 06:39 PM, said:

Well said. That is were the hostility betweet the schools comes from. Bowman fans think they got screwed and Triton somehow had somthing to do with it. Triton fans are mad that the Bowman fans simply don't acknowledge we beat the fair and square. It is quite sad to, that atmosphere at that game last year was special win or lose it was one of the best bball memories of my life. If they meet this year it is going to be nuts.

semajekart, on Feb 8 2010, 01:28 PM, said:

Please give me an explanation on how Randy was a system player and Griffyn isn't.

HoBCat, on Feb 8 2010, 06:39 PM, said:

The two words in reference to last year are: Rule Book

The official assessed his second technical foul to Marrero in direct violation of established National Federation of High Schools written rules. The rule has been posted on several occasions.

The IHSAA declared Marrero ineligible to participate in the Regional Championship game based upon non existent IHSAA rules. The IHSAA rules and bylaws have also been posted on several occasions.

trojans, on Feb 8 2010, 06:50 PM, said:

The 2009 Triton Regional certainly wasn't fair and square.

HoBCat, on Feb 8 2010, 06:39 PM, said:

Actually the 2009 Bowman Team is the same as the 2010 Bowman Team. Just a year older and a year stronger.

Howe Academy, on Feb 8 2010, 08:19 PM, said:

Here we go again. Don't you get tired of posting the same thing over and over again.

PlymouthChamps*82*07, on Feb 8 2010, 08:16 PM, said:

Randy was a great player. He got a lot of buckets off that 1-3-1 trap and lots of steals and layups. He was a pretty good shooter too, haven't seen that as much in college. I just think they did a lot of stuff so he could get his points.

Griffyn scores on his own, or Bano sets him up. Triton doesn't even set screens! Griff has to do a lot on his own. If we saw man and could run a motion offense, he'd score much easier and more often most likely. You can only contan him so long, and he doesn't ever really have an "off" night. He's bound to nail a few at some point or another.

These guys are both very smart players, and they know how to play the game. I just wish Griff had Randy's athletic ability.

One specific point being how many (or how few) points Randy put up on Triton in 2008. We finally had the players to stop the "system" and Randy was ineffective.

trojans, on Feb 8 2010, 01:20 PM, said:

Again, I doubt you even compare to my knowledge and experience of the game. So don't bring your BS to me. Unless you at least have done what I have done, otherwise don't talk to me or others LCC fans, about this crap.

semajekart, on Feb 8 2010, 09:29 PM, said:

You guys did shut him down in '08, but he almost single handedly carried that team to the Final 4 that year as well. I think you should also pay attention to your school (Ball State) because the coach is finally allowing him to be the dynamic player he was in high school, and his last few games he's scored in the 20s. I think you need to keep you family bias in check when making your comments because they are sometimes off the wall. I know how hard this is because I also have a cousin playing at Plymouth this year.

PlymouthChamps*82*07, on Feb 8 2010, 10:01 PM, said:

You kind of proved my point. Randy needs some coaching to get his. Not discrediting anything he or Plymouth did in high school. I think BSU may be turning a corner. I haven't been a huge fan of the offense from what I've seen since I've been here. Glad to see it's getting better and we're competitive nightly.

FWIW, I wouldn't mind one bit if you pointed out something off the wall I said about Griffyn. I don't mean to do that at all.

Howe Academy, on Feb 8 2010, 08:19 PM, said:

And, Triton is involved how? You keep posting stuff about the rules and such, but you never say how it is Triton's fault. Triton took their five and beat Bowman's five. Was Bowman a man down? Sure. But, this is sport, it happens. If Bowman doesn't feel that they are benefiting by being an IHSAA member, then maybe they should leave and become like LaPorte LaLamier. Seriously. Your (Their) beef is with the IHSAA and its administration and officials, not with the members of Triton Trojan basketball team, its school board or the inhabitants of Marshall County. Why can you not understand this? Its not exactly Rocket Science here.....

zebraboiler24, on Feb 8 2010, 10:27 PM, said:

I've never posted a single comment claiming anyone from Triton was responsible for the fiasco which occurred at the 2009 Triton Regional.

A renegade official is responsible for assessing two phantom technical fouls and the current IHSAA commissioner is responsible for declaring a youth ineligible to participate in the Regional Championship game based upon non existent IHSAA rules.

Howe Academy, on Feb 9 2010, 12:21 AM, said:

Howe, while you have not blamed Triton, you keep perpetuating the situation with these posts. Everyday in high school basketball a player is disqualified from competing in part of a game because of improper rulings by refs. A block that should have been a charge, a foul when it was a clean block lead to a 5th foul and someone can't play. Misjudgements happen all the time, so we must have a lot of rogue officials out there.

semajekart, on Feb 8 2010, 10:20 PM, said:

I just think it's a little early to compare Griff to Randy, he still has a year and a half to prove himself.

The Bar-Reeve people have let it go that they got screwed you would think Bowman and there bandwagon fan from Indy would let it go.

HoBCat, on Feb 9 2010, 10:08 AM, said:

Dejaun Marrero has participated in 38 high school basketball games and has never received a single technical foul in 37 of those contests which equals 97.4%. Yet he was assessed two phantom technical fouls within the first 18 minutes, at the 2009 Triton Regional, from the same official.

All IHSAA officials are required to attend annual rules interpretation meetings which are referenced on page 16 of the IHSAA Officials Handbook. The NFHS 2008-2009 rule revisions were presented with a powerpoint training display an also listed on the IHSAA website.

I'm confident Mr. Nix was completely aware of the 2008-2009 NFHS rule revisions when he assessed his second phantom technical foul, which was in direct violation of established NFHS and IHSAA written rules, and resulted in a ejection and subsequent disqualification for the championship game.

Those who continue to defend the actions of this renegade official with excuses such as a "judgement call" or "misjudgement" are simply considered enablers of a blatant cheater.

Video of a blatant cheater in action:
http://nwitimes.vide...ideo?id=3459034

Howe Academy, on Feb 9 2010, 11:15 AM, said:

Do you not realize that noone cares anymore but you? What don't you get about that? It happened near a year ago, but you continue to bring it up and call foul. We've heard your opinion, at least 20x's, and I for one and sick of hearing it. Figure something else to talk about, or get off the board. That simple.

Let it go. Bowman is not even your team! Refs make awful calls all the time, hence my earlier post the Bar-Reeve game. I am not defending the actions I am just saying let it go.

Now Bowman supposedly has numerous D1 players and yet they lose one and can not even beat a team and there best player went to a NAIA school.

Why do you have such a love for Bowman anyway?

ZebraCannon34, on Feb 9 2010, 11:31 AM, said:

"Everyone's game plan is great until they are punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson

Thank you for quoting my signature, I am glad you can read.

PlymouthChamps*82*07, on Feb 9 2010, 10:43 AM, said:

I don't disagree there either. Randy just came to mind, because Plymouth had one of the great systems this state has ever had with Edison. I hope Triton heads down that path, and I think Groves can be that guy. I'm not so sure he'll stick to the blueprint as much as Edison though. We've had very different styles in play over the last 3 years. I think Groves wants to exploit strengths of each team. So far it has worked, and I hope it continues to work. Just depends if the players coming in each year are ready to hop on board. We've got the tools.

And in reference to another thread... What direction do you see Plymouth and Warsaw's programs going?

Howe Academy is right... But at the end of the day it needs to be let go. Bowman will have thier chance at revenge this year. Bowman had 0 Seniors last year, so its not like an upperclassmen got hosed out of getting a state ring. The Eagles will again have to battle the elements and questionable officiating. That will be the test to see if they really are a State Title caliber team.

TitanKnight, on Feb 9 2010, 12:36 PM, said:

Agree there. Triton had 0 seniors when they lost to OD (the year they won state) in sectionals by 2 points. I'm sure you could easily find 2 points worth of calls in that game as well. Triton learned from it, and played like it in 2008. I hope Bowman players and coaches learned from it, and are going to play like it rather than just come on here and whine like some posters do. I love to cheer for the underdogs, but I'd hate to see Bowman blow something big with any bonehead mistakes.

semajekart, on Feb 9 2010, 01:01 PM, said:

Alright..we all agree..No heed to cry..if everyone is as good as advertised in the polls...They will meet again. This is getting old now!! Good luck the rest of the way! Get ready to hold a gym full of Bowman fans wherever..it is exciting looking forward to the post-season!!!!

We'll be ready to hold half a gym full of Bowman fans because I'm sure we'll fill our side rather easily also.

mLtwo4, on Feb 9 2010, 01:23 PM, said:

I usually get excited when mLtwo4 showers us with knowledge and superior information, but in this case, you're wrong!

Our AD would undoubtedly rig the attendance, give Triton fans 3/4 the gym, and squeeze the rest of Bowman in one corner

mLtwo4, on Feb 9 2010, 01:23 PM, said:

No kidding. I got there an hour before the game last year and had to sit on Bowmans side with my big mouth brother. It was really ugly at times. What will Triton do if we meet in the morning game (if we both win sectional). I have no Idea how you put those two fan bases in half that gym.

trojans, on Feb 9 2010, 04:08 PM, said:

That would be a nightmare..

semajekart, on Feb 9 2010, 12:21 PM, said:

After this year Plymouth will steadily be going down hill. Next year they will be middle of the pack in the NLC and don't expect more than a .500 record. My brother is in 6th grade right now and if I were him I wouldn't want to play my basketball at Plymouth anymore, personally I'd want to play for Coach Edison at Laville, but that's just my outside opinion looking in on the current situation. However, my brother seems like the type of kid that would want to restore the Plymouth tradition, but only time will tell.

As for Warsaw, I don't know much about what they have coming through in the next few years, but Nic Moore as a senior isn't a bad start.

PlymouthChamps*82*07, on Feb 9 2010, 06:07 PM, said:

Tell your brother to come on over to Triton. Since my brother has to hang with all those Plymouth people now.

PlymouthChamps*82*07, on Feb 9 2010, 06:07 PM, said:

Are you refering to plymouth steadily going down hill based on lack of talent coming up or lack of coaching. Maybe a little of both. Not trying to start somthing but I have spoke with a few Plymouth people who are not thrilled with the current coaching situation.

trojans, on Feb 9 2010, 06:34 PM, said:

Same here.... politics, I hear.

I feel the same with Warsaw. Moore, and the two sophomores now will be great next year. Watched their jr. high teams play a little too, and they're not slacking either. Their one hurt is absolutely NO backup for Nic.

Plymouth is a product of their system. They are going to find the kids to plug into spots, regardless of the talent pool they draw from. Maybe I'm just a lil to much old school, but there were ALOT of Plymouth teams in the past that wouldn't win a decathalon, but could set the best moving screens in the world!!! They will be fine. Kids grow through that middle school program quicker then most programs.

As far as Warsaw goes, they are going to be okay for the next 2 years. I'm not 100% familiar with the middle school programs, but I do know their 7th grade teams are very tough. Obviously, alot of things happen between 7th grade and 12th grade, but if the kids continue to work and stick with it, they should be fine in the long run. I would be more concerned with the class of 2029!!!!!!

trojans, on Feb 9 2010, 06:34 PM, said:

It is both. The JV team is terrible this year, hard to watch at times. There are players who don't need to be playing that are stealing minutes from players who could contribute to the varsity in years to come. This senior class has a couple great leaders and some good players, next year it will be a headstrong senior class that we be unable to lead the younger players, in my opinion. The coaching has improved from last year but it's not great by any means. Unfortunately it seems the passion to play Plymouth basketball starting at a young age isn't what it was a few years ago. I remember kids I grew up with saying it was their dream to play for Coach Edison, that just isn't the case anymore.

As far as the politics go, it's my opinion that Plymouth Schools have been infected with a cancer that started at the top and has now seeped its way into the high school, and it's a real shame, because when I was a student just a few years ago I loved Plymouth, I can't say the same anymore. It's time for a complete overhaul in Plymouth.

PlymouthChamps*82*07, on Feb 9 2010, 07:40 PM, said:

Sounds like RMK leaving IU.... and TT (Laville) is on its way up... you're welcome! ha.

Fanman, on Feb 9 2010, 07:06 PM, said:

LOL, The girls team or the boys team?????

TBLA, on Feb 9 2010, 01:16 PM, said:

do you think you guys would have beaten the 2009 state 1 a state champion . jac cen del eagles good luck to all the teams in post season

wilhoitjcd, on Feb 10 2010, 07:45 PM, said:

How do those Eagles look in 2010?

wilhoitjcd, on Feb 10 2010, 07:45 PM, said:

JacCenDal was the Champ...Congrats to them!!!! Yesterday is history..the writting is on the wall..!!
I never saw them play..so I couldnt answer that..!! But obviously they were great they won state!!

mLtwo4, on Feb 10 2010, 08:03 PM, said:

They look like a team that graduated four starters. Still very well coached, but most 1A schools don't lose a class of a lifetime and just reload. JCD is solid, but not nearly as good as last year. Sutton is playing at Franklin according to the guy that does the JCD book, and Gehl apparently didn't go ahead and play college ball.

TBLA, on Feb 10 2010, 09:17 PM, said:

Not trying to start anything, but that's a different motto coming from da region I hope they make the most of this year and forget the past.

semajekart, on Feb 10 2010, 09:37 PM, said:

Some things just get old semi!!!

nickalero99, on Feb 10 2010, 09:20 PM, said:

Triton graduated four starters in 08. Those guys were also the class of a lifetime and we made it back to the state finals the next year.

trojans, on Feb 11 2010, 02:48 PM, said:

Then you must not be MOST 1A schools. I still contend that most 1A schools don't lose a class like JCD did and bounce back with a state championship run. Congrats that you did.

semajekart, on Feb 8 2010, 09:29 PM, said:

I have watched Grif and R.Davis play mutiple times, Grif couldn't hold Randy Davis's jock. Davis was a great player at a major program in the State. Grif is a good player on an average team who just plays a weak schedule.

NW Basketball Fan, on Feb 11 2010, 03:19 PM, said:

Easy on the weak schedule. We dropped a 1A school in favor of a 3A school. Played a 4a team and are adding another next year. I would have to agree are schedule is not brutal by any means but at least we are trying. Northwood being 6-10 really brings are sos down quite a bit.

I guess I'm confused. We haven't owned Plymouth and Northwood lately? I wouldn't call our last 3 years average. Go ahead and play the history card. Just shows how bad it is that you lose to us now I guess. I'm still baffled how 20 ppg is average when you're the one keyed on every night. Average players don't do that. And average teams don't blow out 3a program that have hammered us over the years. We even spotted Plymouth a whole quarter this year. I understand NW and Plymouth's frutration.

TBLA, on Feb 10 2010, 10:49 PM, said:

good luck to all the teams and it looks like we all could see great b ball we all hope to see some things just get old semi!!!!!! when our if your team makes it to the semi!! state! one game at a time

semajekart, on Feb 11 2010, 07:10 PM, said:

You may have owned Plymouth as of late, but since randy has been gone, they just havent had the same kind of teams they had before, or the coach

hoopswizard23, on Feb 16 2010, 07:33 PM, said:

And our teams haven't been the same as our '08 either.

semajekart, on Feb 16 2010, 08:55 PM, said:

Correct, i wasn't ragging your program or anything

nickalero99, on Feb 11 2010, 03:15 PM, said:

LCC's 2002 Team Graduated 4 Starters off of 21-6 regional finalist team, 2 of whom went D1 and another D3. LCC bounced back to win State in 03 with only 2 guys who had ever played varisty ball before. In 99 LCC only returned 1 Stater from the 98 State Title team and was also runner up. Consistency in a program is key! But your point is very valid.

NW Basketball Fan, on Feb 11 2010, 03:19 PM, said:

OK, I have heard it all now, a Plymouth person accusing someone else of a cupcake schedule.

Hey Plymouth, in case you didn't know it, you are a 3A school, Laville, CMA (this year is an exception to the norm) Triton, Bremen, c'mon, cupcake cupcake cupcake. The only reason you have any good competition on your schedule is you are in the NLC.

HoBCat, on Feb 17 2010, 07:43 AM, said:

I think it was a Northwood person, but same thing really.

Trojan474, on Feb 17 2010, 09:07 AM, said:

With a combined 5 losses (to the best of my memory) to Triton in the all-time series entering 2008, followed by 6 conseutive losses for the programs since, and I can understand why they open their mouths now......... I'll lump them in the same boat as well.