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LHS3

Posted 15 July 2010 - 06:12 AM

The Loogootee Lions basketball program has taken a few hits as of the last week:

1. Scott Reid (AD) is leaving to coach baseball at North Posey. He is going to be missed.
2. One of the best coaches in the program is stepping away for good. Coach K will be missed as he was the man that taught the basics in basketball.

I guess if they would have hired Josh Thompson they would not be looking for another AD, again. :huh: I guess they might just give it to someone that is already employed by the school to save more money. Good move, I doubt it. Oh well, I guess we can always use the old saying, "Wait Till Next Year" ;)

What do they do about the 7th grade coaching position? Who knows, but this is going to be some BIG shoes to try and fill.

This info is coming from the "Downtown Coaches Assoc" so I am not sure that #2 is true or not. We all know that we are not suppose to base everythingon sports, but LHS is taken some HUGE hits as of lately. I guess we will have to wait and see how the program will adjust to the changes.

LHS-1

Posted 15 July 2010 - 11:28 AM

View PostLHS3, on Jul 15 2010, 07:12 AM, said:

The Loogootee Lions basketball program has taken a few hits as of the last week:

1. Scott Reid (AD) is leaving to coach baseball at North Posey. He is going to be missed.
2. One of the best coaches in the program is stepping away for good. Coach K will be missed as he was the man that taught the basics in basketball.

I guess if they would have hired Josh Thompson they would not be looking for another AD, again. :huh: I guess they might just give it to someone that is already employed by the school to save more money. Good move, I doubt it. Oh well, I guess we can always use the old saying, "Wait Till Next Year" ;)

What do they do about the 7th grade coaching position? Who knows, but this is going to be some BIG shoes to try and fill.



This info is coming from the "Downtown Coaches Assoc" so I am not sure that #2 is true or not. We all know that we are not suppose to base everythingon sports, but LHS is taken some HUGE hits as of lately. I guess we will have to wait and see how the program will adjust to the changes.


Played for Coach K many years back and he really had a knack for making you do the drills correctly. As like most athletes who played for him, we thought he was old and out of style, but once you get older and see what he was actually doing, you learn to appreciate what he did and how he did it. Our class was pretty good (23-3) as I remember and he really made sure that we kept our heads. The program will have to search real hard to find someone to fill his shoes, which probably can't be done. He was one of a kind, like Coach Butcher and you don't replace coaches like that with the same caliber coaches. I'm sure the current staff will take it's time and come up with a suitable replacement. They now have 4 ex-Lions players on staff at the 5-6-8 grade levels. (Not including Wininger and Wade on the hs staff) As for Reid, I thought he did a nice job, but maybe it's time to select someone local to do the AD job who will stick around and give the AD department some stability. Not knocking Reid, but I think everyone kind of had a feeling he would leave if he found the right job and I'm sure he will do well at N. Posey. Let's hope the administration does the right thing here.

taps browning

Posted 15 July 2010 - 12:52 PM

View PostLHS3, on Jul 15 2010, 07:12 AM, said:

The Loogootee Lions basketball program has taken a few hits as of the last week:

1. Scott Reid (AD) is leaving to coach baseball at North Posey. He is going to be missed.
2. One of the best coaches in the program is stepping away for good. Coach K will be missed as he was the man that taught the basics in basketball.

I guess if they would have hired Josh Thompson they would not be looking for another AD, again. :huh: I guess they might just give it to someone that is already employed by the school to save more money. Good move, I doubt it. Oh well, I guess we can always use the old saying, "Wait Till Next Year" ;)

What do they do about the 7th grade coaching position? Who knows, but this is going to be some BIG shoes to try and fill.

This info is coming from the "Downtown Coaches Assoc" so I am not sure that #2 is true or not. We all know that we are not suppose to base everythingon sports, but LHS is taken some HUGE hits as of lately. I guess we will have to wait and see how the program will adjust to the changes.


I don't think the AD leaving is necessarily a big deal. Why is Lee Stepping down? That will be a big loss, if true.

Still, the varsity boys are going to be really good this year and this may be a case where the varsity success improves the grade program as opposed to the other way around.

Sissy McQueen

Posted 15 July 2010 - 01:25 PM

How do you replace the District 11 Assistant Principal of the Year???

SAVEME

Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:00 PM

First, losing Mr. Reid is a big deal. We need some fresh blood, he was from the outside, and he was always around. I know he was respected not only in town, but by other schools and rivals alike. He has received a great gig working for great people at North Posey.

Secondly, When Lee isn't on the sideline for the opening of the season, then I will believe he is done. I've talked to some close to the situation and they feel he will be back.

lionfan2003

Posted 21 July 2010 - 02:01 PM

Lee will definatly be missed. The man BLEEDS basketball and always has. I believe he takes loosing as a personal failure. As for Reed , easy come easy go.

3out2under

Posted 23 July 2010 - 08:40 AM

The greatest ad of all time can come in and Lee can coach until the end of time, but until the work ethic and the attitude changes in the kids it will be awhile before Loogootee basketball is back. Just one guys opinion.

taps browning

Posted 26 July 2010 - 06:31 AM

View Post3out2under, on Jul 23 2010, 09:40 AM, said:

The greatest ad of all time can come in and Lee can coach until the end of time, but until the work ethic and the attitude changes in the kids it will be awhile before Loogootee basketball is back. Just one guys opinion.


I'd say it's going to be about 4 months until Loogootee basketball is back. They are going to be very strong this year.

Lagote74

Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:09 AM

View PostLHS3, on Jul 15 2010, 07:12 AM, said:

The Loogootee Lions basketball program has taken a few hits as of the last week:

1. Scott Reid (AD) is leaving to coach baseball at North Posey. He is going to be missed.
2. One of the best coaches in the program is stepping away for good. Coach K will be missed as he was the man that taught the basics in basketball.

I guess if they would have hired Josh Thompson they would not be looking for another AD, again. ;) I guess they might just give it to someone that is already employed by the school to save more money. Good move, I doubt it. Oh well, I guess we can always use the old saying, "Wait Till Next Year" B)

What do they do about the 7th grade coaching position? Who knows, but this is going to be some BIG shoes to try and fill.

This info is coming from the "Downtown Coaches Assoc" so I am not sure that #2 is true or not. We all know that we are not suppose to base everythingon sports, but LHS is taken some HUGE hits as of lately. I guess we will have to wait and see how the program will adjust to the changes.

Boy what a gloom and doom story from the "Downtown Coaches Assoc.". Scott Reid is replaceable and I know the perfect candidate if he's given a chance. Interestingly he works in North Posey school system and bleeds "black and gold". John Mullen we both know who this person is and he deserves a chance.
Scott Reid has been a dedicated and responsible AD and I'm sure he'll do a great job at North Posey as baseball coach, maybe we can do switcharoo with North Posey on this.
As for Coach Lee Kavanaugh, him leaving I'm believe it when I see it. He'll be teaching his "crip shot" until the day he dies!

Lionbacker1973

Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:05 PM

Lagote74,

I assume you are referring to the Assistant Principal at North Posey.

http://www.northposey.k12.in.us/site/NPHS/...dmin_index.html

Strong pedigree, whatever that's worth.

Lagote74

Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:32 PM

View PostLionbacker1973, on Jul 28 2010, 01:05 PM, said:

Lagote74,

I assume you are referring to the Assistant Principal at North Posey.

http://www.northposey.k12.in.us/site/NPHS/...dmin_index.html

Strong pedigree, whatever that's worth.

Acctually I wasn't, but Steve Kavanaugh the younger is a great guy too. I've known him since he played ball for Barr-Reeve in late 80's and of course he's Lee's son what can I say.

LHS-1

Posted 04 August 2010 - 09:37 AM

View PostSissy McQueen, on Jul 15 2010, 02:25 PM, said:

How do you replace the District 11 Assistant Principal of the Year???


Looks like Save Me had it right, looks like Mr. K. will be back on the sidelines, at least that is what the
downtown coaches assoc. is spreading around. They usually know the scuttlebutt down there. If so, good for the Lions and I'm sure Ole Mr. K. will start practice soon!!

BRBBALL

Posted 06 August 2010 - 01:06 PM

View PostLHS-1, on Aug 4 2010, 10:37 AM, said:

Looks like Save Me had it right, looks like Mr. K. will be back on the sidelines, at least that is what the
downtown coaches assoc. is spreading around. They usually know the scuttlebutt down there. If so, good for the Lions and I'm sure Ole Mr. K. will start practice soon!!


At what level? And i assume it is for LHS?

LHS-1

Posted 06 August 2010 - 03:54 PM

View PostBRBBALL, on Aug 6 2010, 02:06 PM, said:

At what level? And i assume it is for LHS?


At Loogootee and I'm pretty sure the 7th grade where he has been for ages. I think that him and Coach Wade(Chad-8th coach) make a pretty good team.

LHS3

Posted 11 August 2010 - 06:40 AM

View PostLHS-1, on Aug 6 2010, 04:54 PM, said:

At Loogootee and I'm pretty sure the 7th grade where he has been for ages. I think that him and Coach Wade(Chad-8th coach) make a pretty good team.



Well, as another school year starts, we all are awaiting the basketball season to come around. Sure we have volleyball with the girls, boys tennis and even CC, but we all are just waiting to see what the area schools have for the basketball season. Another year with "Who is going to be good" and such. I guess we all will wait and see if BR will once again control the sectional, oh and yes it is at ND this year. I guess we will get to hear all the ND people say that their place is the best place to host the sectional again. Man, I can't wait to see all that floating on here again. :lol:

So, my question to everybody that reads this post is, Who is going to be strong this year? Who is going to be your sleeper? I hve noticed that this post has been looked at a lot, but not many posts. Maybe this will get some sparks flying. ;)

taps browning

Posted 11 August 2010 - 07:07 AM

View PostLHS3, on Aug 11 2010, 07:40 AM, said:

Well, as another school year starts, we all are awaiting the basketball season to come around. Sure we have volleyball with the girls, boys tennis and even CC, but we all are just waiting to see what the area schools have for the basketball season. Another year with "Who is going to be good" and such. I guess we all will wait and see if BR will once again control the sectional, oh and yes it is at ND this year. I guess we will get to hear all the ND people say that their place is the best place to host the sectional again. Man, I can't wait to see all that floating on here again. :lol:

So, my question to everybody that reads this post is, Who is going to be strong this year? Who is going to be your sleeper? I hve noticed that this post has been looked at a lot, but not many posts. Maybe this will get some sparks flying. ;)


Loogootee is clearly the pre season favorite. They need to and should spank the Vikings pretty good this year. BR did pretty well in summer play, but they are way too inexperienced at the guard positions to compete with the Lions this year. North Daviess will be decent, maybe surprise some people. Rivet has an outstanding player in Vieke, they will be tough to beat at Rivet. Shoals has a chance to be a .500 team or so. Washington Catholic - who knows? They have a couple of decent players, but unless the new coach can somehow spark some interest they won't have enough bodies to be competitive.

As far as the sectional being at ND - we have probably used up enough bandwidth on that one already. Hopefully this will be the last year for that.

Lagote74

Posted 11 August 2010 - 09:54 AM

View PostLHS-1, on Aug 4 2010, 10:37 AM, said:

Looks like Save Me had it right, looks like Mr. K. will be back on the sidelines, at least that is what the
downtown coaches assoc. is spreading around. They usually know the scuttlebutt down there. If so, good for the Lions and I'm sure Ole Mr. K. will start practice soon!!

Well the story that Scott Reid left Loogootee are bogus, he just got a 1 year extension on his contract late in June.

LHS3

Posted 11 August 2010 - 02:16 PM

View PostLagote74, on Aug 11 2010, 10:54 AM, said:

Well the story that Scott Reid left Loogootee are bogus, he just got a 1 year extension on his contract late in June.



This really makes me wonder, What if? ;)

I guess we can just leave it at that. I am thinking that the Lions might look good on paper, but wait till they actually hit the hard wood. Lion nation (no worries, I have heard that they can't even get any fans at the game) might be a little nervous when the Ackerman boy doesn't have have much help this year. Oh well, "Lion Backers" might as well get use to the watching BR rack up those wins. Can anybody hear JB groaning yet? :lol:

SAVEME

Posted 11 August 2010 - 05:33 PM

Mr. Reid is most definitely gone to North Posey as the Assistant Principal/Head Baseball Coach.

3out2under

Posted 11 August 2010 - 08:54 PM

View PostLHS3, on Aug 11 2010, 02:16 PM, said:

This really makes me wonder, What if? ;)

I guess we can just leave it at that. I am thinking that the Lions might look good on paper, but wait till they actually hit the hard wood. Lion nation (no worries, I have heard that they can't even get any fans at the game) might be a little nervous when the Ackerman boy doesn't have have much help this year. Oh well, "Lion Backers" might as well get use to the watching BR rack up those wins. Can anybody hear JB groaning yet? :lol:

Lagote74

Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:21 AM

View PostSAVEME, on Aug 11 2010, 06:33 PM, said:

Mr. Reid is most definitely gone to North Posey as the Assistant Principal/Head Baseball Coach.

OK I guess I must missed the tribune or times herald article about him leaving.I check archives of times herald didn't find anything. Can someone help? His pic is still on Loogootee schools website as athletic director, any updates on when a replacement will be put in place?

lionfan2003

Posted 12 August 2010 - 11:41 AM

If the numbers are low enough to close a school, we don't need an assistant princple do we. They can give the ad job to Winniger he probable is quailfied for it with all of his teaching experiance.

taps browning

Posted 12 August 2010 - 02:03 PM

View PostLHS3, on Aug 11 2010, 03:16 PM, said:

This really makes me wonder, What if? ;)

I guess we can just leave it at that. I am thinking that the Lions might look good on paper, but wait till they actually hit the hard wood. Lion nation (no worries, I have heard that they can't even get any fans at the game) might be a little nervous when the Ackerman boy doesn't have have much help this year. Oh well, "Lion Backers" might as well get use to the watching BR rack up those wins. Can anybody hear JB groaning yet? :lol:


Huh? You can get out your chisel and granite and put this in stone: Whoever wins the LHS - Orleans game in the Loogootee regional will represent the South at Conseco this year in 1A.

Sissy McQueen

Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:56 AM

View Postlionfan2003, on Aug 12 2010, 12:41 PM, said:

If the numbers are low enough to close a school, we don't need an assistant princple do we. They can give the ad job to Winniger he probable is quailfied for it with all of his teaching experiance.



If they need to make any cuts, I think the spelling teacher would be an obvious choice.

LHS3

Posted 16 August 2010 - 09:33 AM

View Posttaps browning, on Aug 12 2010, 03:03 PM, said:

Huh? You can get out your chisel and granite and put this in stone: Whoever wins the LHS - Orleans game in the Loogootee regional will represent the South at Conseco this year in 1A.



I'm really not sure you want to do that yet. You need to remember, BR has had the upper hand on the sectionals being played around Loogootee. They have said that they are going to be a little down this year? I don't put too much into that. They have dedicated people that do nothing but put time and effort into the sport itself. Dedication comes form the top of each programs. Heck look at ND. Does anybody have any idea how much dedication is in place for, Lets Say Loogootee? I sure do hope that the kids want it alot because I have been told that the coaches sure don't. ;)

taps browning

Posted 16 August 2010 - 01:17 PM

View PostLHS3, on Aug 16 2010, 10:33 AM, said:

I'm really not sure you want to do that yet. You need to remember, BR has had the upper hand on the sectionals being played around Loogootee. They have said that they are going to be a little down this year? I don't put too much into that. They have dedicated people that do nothing but put time and effort into the sport itself. Dedication comes form the top of each programs. Heck look at ND. Does anybody have any idea how much dedication is in place for, Lets Say Loogootee? I sure do hope that the kids want it alot because I have been told that the coaches sure don't. ;)


You have been misinformed. Nobody wants it more than coach Waggoner. Look, right now BR has a better program than Loogootee, I'll grant you that. You could make a heck of an argument that the BR basketball program is unmatched in the state, given what they have to work with. BUT this year at the varsity level the Lions have the goods. Put it in stone.

lionfan2003

Posted 16 August 2010 - 02:09 PM

I agree Wag wants to win ,but i don't know if he wants to work hard enough to get there.

3out2under

Posted 17 August 2010 - 01:33 PM

Nobody wants to work to get better! It's pretty obvious after the last few years the kids don't. Does ANYBODY feel that ND or BR isn't or hasn't been busting their butts to get and continue to be better?

LHS-1

Posted 17 August 2010 - 04:13 PM

View Post3out2under, on Aug 17 2010, 02:33 PM, said:

Nobody wants to work to get better! It's pretty obvious after the last few years the kids don't. Does ANYBODY feel that ND or BR isn't or hasn't been busting their butts to get and continue to be better?


From what I've seen and heard they have been busting their butts! This is my perspective of what I know or have witnessed: pretty intensive weight program the last 2 years at the Body Shop, tourneys and camps in the summer plus open gyms and individual workouts (was told Coach W even has had old veteran Coach Nonte in to work one on one with the Sherfick boy), fundraising for the boys team (golf scramble of which I played in the first one and had a great time) brought back "meet the coaches" night at the local K of C that Coach Butcher used to do years ago (previous coach didn't do that). Heck, his brother told me he even painted the railings on the stairs and the first two rows of bleachers black in the gym to spruce it up before the holiday tourney. If that's not dedication, what is??? Short of recruiting ungodly talent, I for one am happy with the way things are being handled in the LHS system. Once heard or read somewhere that it takes a coach at least 3 yrs to turn a program around. Guess what, this will be their third year and looks like they might just reach up and grab some hardware this year. Barring injury (Baugh, I know) and any major problems I think it's the year of the LIONS!!!!

Lagote74

Posted 18 August 2010 - 08:40 AM

View PostLHS-1, on Aug 17 2010, 05:13 PM, said:

From what I've seen and heard they have been busting their butts! This is my perspective of what I know or have witnessed: pretty intensive weight program the last 2 years at the Body Shop, tourneys and camps in the summer plus open gyms and individual workouts (was told Coach W even has had old veteran Coach Nonte in to work one on one with the Sherfick boy), fundraising for the boys team (golf scramble of which I played in the first one and had a great time) brought back "meet the coaches" night at the local K of C that Coach Butcher used to do years ago (previous coach didn't do that). Heck, his brother told me he even painted the railings on the stairs and the first two rows of bleachers black in the gym to spruce it up before the holiday tourney. If that's not dedication, what is??? Short of recruiting ungodly talent, I for one am happy with the way things are being handled in the LHS system. Once heard or read somewhere that it takes a coach at least 3 yrs to turn a program around. Guess what, this will be their third year and looks like they might just reach up and grab some hardware this year. Barring injury (Baugh, I know) and any major problems I think it's the year of the LIONS!!!!

Ditto! I had been told at Body Shop by another former Lion who was/is working with the Sherfick kid, so all of that is true. Before I got sick I saw alot of the ballplayers at Body Shop working out with alot of dedication. I've been out of the loop since 6/15, but when I drive by there early evening I see ballplayers going in and out, so I assume they are continuing workouts with dedication.
Everytime I talk to Wag, he is very pumped, ready for the season, and so am I!

LHS3

Posted 18 August 2010 - 01:12 PM

View PostLagote74, on Aug 18 2010, 09:40 AM, said:

Ditto! I had been told at Body Shop by another former Lion who was/is working with the Sherfick kid, so all of that is true. Before I got sick I saw alot of the ballplayers at Body Shop working out with alot of dedication. I've been out of the loop since 6/15, but when I drive by there early evening I see ballplayers going in and out, so I assume they are continuing workouts with dedication.
Everytime I talk to Wag, he is very pumped, ready for the season, and so am I!



Good stuff and great reporting, but let's look at the big picture. Is this year going to be the year that the whole program is going to be turned around? I have to say NO!! Let's look down the grades a little, for that look at the JV this year. Does anybody on here think that the JV will be .500 this year? I have been hearing that there is no way we will even be close. After that, how about the 7th and 8th grades? Is there any talent down there they we can try and fine tune any? There is to much to try and cover, but it needs to start at the top.

I do want to visit one more thing. Other than the "Starting Five" (which I am sure it is already picked out) What do we have to come in and help out in any areas? Who in the world is going to be the back up PG or even for that the starting PG? What ever happened to working hard that week in practice, then you get a starting spot? <_< Makes you wonder, Who really runs the program in Loogootee anymore? Parents or the coaches? :mellow:

Kavanaugh Court

Posted 19 August 2010 - 09:23 AM

View PostLHS3, on Aug 18 2010, 02:12 PM, said:

Good stuff and great reporting, but let's look at the big picture. Is this year going to be the year that the whole program is going to be turned around? I have to say NO!! Let's look down the grades a little, for that look at the JV this year. Does anybody on here think that the JV will be .500 this year? I have been hearing that there is no way we will even be close. After that, how about the 7th and 8th grades? Is there any talent down there they we can try and fine tune any? There is to much to try and cover, but it needs to start at the top.

I do want to visit one more thing. Other than the "Starting Five" (which I am sure it is already picked out) What do we have to come in and help out in any areas? Who in the world is going to be the back up PG or even for that the starting PG? What ever happened to working hard that week in practice, then you get a starting spot? <_< Makes you wonder, Who really runs the program in Loogootee anymore? Parents or the coaches?

I can report that the Loogootee 8th grade is a pretty good group......at the same time, I don't believe the BR 8th grade has ever lost a game. Orleans also has a very talented group of 8th graders to be, so it should be a strong year in the area for that age group. I think everybody should give Mike the time he needs in his program.....he is a good person, and has earned that chance.

LHS3

Posted 26 August 2010 - 05:49 AM

Well, I have been hearing some information from a "Downtown Coach Assoc" (location is at the Dairy Master), that Lion nation has lost another b-ball player. I am really wondering if these kids are starting to see the writting on the wall? Maybe they know something that the rest of us don't. They went on to tell the group that they felt like it was no surprise, but who really stops playing basketball their Senior year? I am thinking that he "knew" he would not get much playing time so instead of being a team player, he said the hell with it. I really liked the Wildman boy as he was a good kid, but I guess if you don't have it in you anymore, well it is time to step aside and let somone else give it a shot.

LHS-1

Posted 26 August 2010 - 03:13 PM

View PostLHS3, on 26 August 2010 - 05:49 AM, said:

Well, I have been hearing some information from a "Downtown Coach Assoc" (location is at the Dairy Master), that Lion nation has lost another b-ball player. I am really wondering if these kids are starting to see the writting on the wall? Maybe they know something that the rest of us don't. They went on to tell the group that they felt like it was no surprise, but who really stops playing basketball their Senior year? I am thinking that he "knew" he would not get much playing time so instead of being a team player, he said the hell with it. I really liked the Wildman boy as he was a good kid, but I guess if you don't have it in you anymore, well it is time to step aside and let somone else give it a shot.


That seems to be the attitude of alot of athletes these days! It's not good enough to be a part of a "team" anymore and to do all you can to make the team better or successful. When I played we had 5 seniors and 3 of them never saw the floor except for practice. But that didn't bother them and they were happy with their roles. And guess what, they were part of a Sectional championship team which means alot to some people. Let me ask you LHS 3, is playing time THE most important thing in athletics? Or is it being part of a successful team and program and helping in any way to keep it going? I cherished my time on the hardwood at LHS and no I didn't play all the time, but I darn sure enjoyed it and wouldn't change any of it. As far as the players who quit "knowing" something that the rest of us don't, I doubt it, it's the new generation and different attitude of some kids these days.

3out2under

Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:25 AM

View PostLHS-1, on 26 August 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:

That seems to be the attitude of alot of athletes these days! It's not good enough to be a part of a "team" anymore and to do all you can to make the team better or successful. When I played we had 5 seniors and 3 of them never saw the floor except for practice. But that didn't bother them and they were happy with their roles. And guess what, they were part of a Sectional championship team which means alot to some people. Let me ask you LHS 3, is playing time THE most important thing in athletics? Or is it being part of a successful team and program and helping in any way to keep it going? I cherished my time on the hardwood at LHS and no I didn't play all the time, but I darn sure enjoyed it and wouldn't change any of it. As far as the players who quit "knowing" something that the rest of us don't, I doubt it, it's the new generation and different attitude of some kids these days.


Amen you are exactly right!! The only thing that guys that quit know is that they aren't going to work hard enough to earn playing time.

LHS3

Posted 30 August 2010 - 05:34 AM

View PostLHS-1, on 26 August 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:

That seems to be the attitude of alot of athletes these days! It's not good enough to be a part of a "team" anymore and to do all you can to make the team better or successful. When I played we had 5 seniors and 3 of them never saw the floor except for practice. But that didn't bother them and they were happy with their roles. And guess what, they were part of a Sectional championship team which means alot to some people. Let me ask you LHS 3, is playing time THE most important thing in athletics? Or is it being part of a successful team and program and helping in any way to keep it going? I cherished my time on the hardwood at LHS and no I didn't play all the time, but I darn sure enjoyed it and wouldn't change any of it. As far as the players who quit "knowing" something that the rest of us don't, I doubt it, it's the new generation and different attitude of some kids these days.



This is an easy answer since you are asking me. Being part of a "Team" or even a "Tradition" is what I value the most. Playing time means really nothing to me as I would want to be part of the tradition that has been built for several years. The Lion tradition is something that was even in the works before JB got there. He just added his touch to some things that was already in place as this is what most coaches do. I agree wtih you as kids these days really don't care about it anymore. I bet if you asked the coaches today how many kids came in on their own to work on their game, I bet they would say maybe two or three. Then after that, go ask JB how many of his kids came in over the summer to work on their game and I bet he would say 90% or more, but that was a different era. No video games, computers or any other electronics these kids have these days back then. Just kids that wanted to be part of something special. Oh well, we can sit on here and write all kinds of posts about what we should do or if we was the coach we would do this, I guess we just all need to sit back and get ready for another year of basketball and enjoy what we can. Eye sores? There might be a few, but there has been for the last five years so lets just grin it and bear it.

taps browning

Posted 30 August 2010 - 10:14 AM

View PostLHS3, on 30 August 2010 - 05:34 AM, said:

This is an easy answer since you are asking me. Being part of a "Team" or even a "Tradition" is what I value the most. Playing time means really nothing to me as I would want to be part of the tradition that has been built for several years. The Lion tradition is something that was even in the works before JB got there. He just added his touch to some things that was already in place as this is what most coaches do. I agree wtih you as kids these days really don't care about it anymore. I bet if you asked the coaches today how many kids came in on their own to work on their game, I bet they would say maybe two or three. Then after that, go ask JB how many of his kids came in over the summer to work on their game and I bet he would say 90% or more, but that was a different era. No video games, computers or any other electronics these kids have these days back then. Just kids that wanted to be part of something special. Oh well, we can sit on here and write all kinds of posts about what we should do or if we was the coach we would do this, I guess we just all need to sit back and get ready for another year of basketball and enjoy what we can. Eye sores? There might be a few, but there has been for the last five years so lets just grin it and bear it.


This would be a fascinating topic for a paper for a sociology or psychology student. The state of LHS basketball program now with class basketball and no hall of fame coach vs what it was pre class and with coach Butcher. Schools who embraced class ball have surpassed Loogootee in terms of success on the court and also fan support. It really would make for a great research project. Not just at Loogootee, there are other examples out there that are similar.

Anyway, the Lion golf scramble is this Saturday I believe. Hopefully there will be a big turn out again.

Bobcat

Posted 30 August 2010 - 11:00 AM

Kids play ball if they LOVE the game, respect the coaches, like their team mates and have fan support.

From my experience, electronics have little to do with it.

Kids who choose not to play for various reasons need not be there.


LHS-1

Posted 30 August 2010 - 04:37 PM

View PostLHS3, on 30 August 2010 - 05:34 AM, said:

This is an easy answer since you are asking me. Being part of a "Team" or even a "Tradition" is what I value the most. Playing time means really nothing to me as I would want to be part of the tradition that has been built for several years. The Lion tradition is something that was even in the works before JB got there. He just added his touch to some things that was already in place as this is what most coaches do. I agree wtih you as kids these days really don't care about it anymore. I bet if you asked the coaches today how many kids came in on their own to work on their game, I bet they would say maybe two or three. Then after that, go ask JB how many of his kids came in over the summer to work on their game and I bet he would say 90% or more, but that was a different era. No video games, computers or any other electronics these kids have these days back then. Just kids that wanted to be part of something special. Oh well, we can sit on here and write all kinds of posts about what we should do or if we was the coach we would do this, I guess we just all need to sit back and get ready for another year of basketball and enjoy what we can. Eye sores? There might be a few, but there has been for the last five years so lets just grin it and bear it.


Coach Butcher won over 800 games in 40 some years. I would say that the Lion tradition that we know today was established during Coach B tenure more than anyone else. How could it be any other way. No one coaches in the same place for 40+ yrs anymore so that is unheard of. But that consistency is what has made Loogootee special. It could be said that the coaching styles have changed with Coach Wagoner but the teams are different too. Height, speed, aau ball have all changed the way you have to coach these days. (And the Lions should have one of their tallest teams to date) And if I'm not mistaken, Coach W has been at Loogootee his whole career, alongside Coach B and Coach Brett. Kids are different there's no doubt these days but that doesn't mean they don't want to work hard and win. From every thing I have seen and heard they are working their tails off to keep the "tradition" alive. I for one can't wait til Thanksgiving weekend when the Lions start the season. Here's one LHS fan that is rooting for the Lions, rooting for Coach Wagoner and his staff and hoping that this is the magical year to end our drought. (By the way, what eye sores?)