Huss leaves CMA (View original topic)



mLtwo4

Posted 06 July 2010 - 11:15 AM

Word has it that Delray Brooks has left LaPorte LaLumiere and Alan Huss has left CMA to fill that vacant position. I was told from an extremely reliable source that any new player to CMA that wasn't a freshman wasn't going to be eligible to play. Not sure how that would work since it happens basically evrywhere else. It would appear that LL could possibly be turned into the next basketball academy since they are not an IHSAA school. Best of luck to Coach Huss. In the couple of face to face encounters that I have had with him he has been a hospitable guy.

semajekart

Posted 06 July 2010 - 01:01 PM

So everyone at CMA will transfer to LL? Look out Bowman.

mLtwo4

Posted 06 July 2010 - 01:06 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Myers, Ajou, and Brescacin follow coach and remain the nucleus over there. I don't know anything about LL. Since they aren't an IHSAA school I don't follow them much so I don't know what the talent looks like as of now. But I'd guarantee that it improves over the next couple years.

trojans

Posted 06 July 2010 - 02:56 PM

Never been a big fan of Huss. I"ve never spoken to him like you have ML but he comes off as a what's in it for me kinda coach. I'm guessing CMA BB will go into the pooper again.

The Commandant

Posted 07 July 2010 - 11:19 AM

[quote name='trojans' date='Jul 6 2010, 03:56 PM' post='70841']
Never been a big fan of Huss. I"ve never spoken to him like you have ML but he comes off as a what's in it for me kinda coach. I'm guessing CMA BB will go into the pooper again.


Why do you Triton guys even give a rat's about what is going on at CMA?? There's always more to a story than you'll ever hear. Life is more than basketball, and when a guy has a young family as Huss does, others things always need to be taken in consideration. I'm sure LL is a better fit for him because of all the regulations an IHSAA member has to follow, not withstanding coming from one of the few boarding private's in the state that has to navigate in different waters than the public schools when it comes to the IHSAA. As said before, CMA is in a can't win scenario. Most of you in the public had him convicted as a cheater whether there was any basis in fact to it at all. So it ends differently than what anybody expected...thats usually how it goes! I suspect that if the CMA program does go in the "pooper" again, we can expect that Triton and all the NSC will once again be snooping around for a game.

Bball_fan53

Posted 08 July 2010 - 09:42 AM

Is this offical?

The Commandant

Posted 08 July 2010 - 10:35 AM

View PostBball_fan53, on Jul 8 2010, 10:42 AM, said:

Is this offical?


Yes, however there is no truth that any of CMA's kids will be transferring to LL. (Not yet anyway!)

mLtwo4

Posted 08 July 2010 - 10:38 AM

I for one don't care the slightest bit what goes on at CMA. I'm simply just tyring to inform some people and give them something to look at on this site since it's so boring during the off-season. I don't know about the rest of the NSC but I can pretty much guarantee that Triton won't look to pick CMA up if they need a game. They've put Warsaw back on the schedule and will continue to make improvements.

The Commandant

Posted 08 July 2010 - 10:50 AM

View PostmLtwo4, on Jul 8 2010, 11:38 AM, said:

I for one don't care the slightest bit what goes on at CMA. I'm simply just tyring to inform some people and give them something to look at on this site since it's so boring during the off-season. I don't know about the rest of the NSC but I can pretty much guarantee that Triton won't look to pick CMA up if they need a game. They've put Warsaw back on the schedule and will continue to make improvements.


Well this story is already boring. No sense in re-hashing everything. It was last weeks news and all parties have moved on............

semajekart

Posted 08 July 2010 - 02:29 PM

Bitter much?

Sportsguy

Posted 08 July 2010 - 09:25 PM

View PostThe Commandant, on Jul 7 2010, 12:19 PM, said:

I'm sure LL is a better fit for him because of all the regulations an IHSAA member has to follow, not withstanding coming from one of the few boarding private's in the state that has to navigate in different waters than the public schools when it comes to the IHSAA.


:huh:

Yes, those pesky IHSAA regulations. But I wasn't aware of any different set of regs pertaining to CMA. I assume CMA signs off on any transfers away from its athletic program. When was the last time another school failed to sign off on someone going to CMA? Westfield didn't seem to have a problem losing one-and-done Waverly Neer to CMA.

The Commandant

Posted 09 July 2010 - 07:24 AM

View PostSportsguy, on Jul 8 2010, 10:25 PM, said:

:huh:

Yes, those pesky IHSAA regulations. But I wasn't aware of any different set of regs pertaining to CMA. I assume CMA signs off on any transfers away from its athletic program. When was the last time another school failed to sign off on someone going to CMA? Westfield didn't seem to have a problem losing one-and-done Waverly Neer to CMA.


Never said anything about IHSAA rules being "pesky". If anything, this development should put to rest any of the speculation that CMA was flaunting the IHSAA rules during this period. It should also prove that they were trying to live up to the rules of the association. Becoming more difficult perhaps because of the strategic focus of the school to become a "global" institution. There was a new rule placed on CMA this year by the IHSAA that involved "international students" that ML discussed in his initial post. Don't believe any other school impacted to any degree. So you can now be aware!! My guess that sealed Huss's decision to move on!!

The Commandant

Posted 21 July 2010 - 11:16 AM

View Postsemajekart, on Jul 8 2010, 03:29 PM, said:

Bitter much?


Naw just absolutely floored to hear the rumors of whose applying for the job! Alot of shockers folks!

trojans

Posted 21 July 2010 - 12:18 PM

View PostThe Commandant, on Jul 21 2010, 11:16 AM, said:

Naw just absolutely floored to hear the rumors of whose applying for the job! Alot of shockers folks!


If all their players stay thats a great job to have

mLtwo4

Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:33 PM

I certainly don't know much when it comes to the rules that CMA has to abide by but overall I think it would be a tough gig. You either play with who you have and somewhat struggle or try to get some student athletes and face the recruiting cries. If the players stay I believe they would be solid for another year or two. Overall in the big picture though, I think it would be pretty difficult. Commandment I'd love to hear the names of the applicants if you'd be willing to share. Especially if Gordon Mosson is one of them.

The Commandant

Posted 22 July 2010 - 07:44 AM

View PostmLtwo4, on Jul 21 2010, 10:33 PM, said:

I certainly don't know much when it comes to the rules that CMA has to abide by but overall I think it would be a tough gig. You either play with who you have and somewhat struggle or try to get some student athletes and face the recruiting cries. If the players stay I believe they would be solid for another year or two. Overall in the big picture though, I think it would be pretty difficult. Commandment I'd love to hear the names of the applicants if you'd be willing to share. Especially if Gordon Mosson is one of them.


Most reasonable thing I have ever seen you post!! Thanks, I think you have hit the nail on the head! Coach M's name has come up in discussions, but don't know for sure if he is one of the applicants. The shocking aspects of this is several coaches from schools that raised alot of the ruckous over the last 3 years are in the pool....go figure that one out!! Some Indy names also. I'd like to see someone put in who can put an end to all the endless speculation about what CMA does or doesn't do...if that ends up being a local coach with ties to the coaching community that can help all concerned figure out what CMA is all about, so be it! I believe most of the kids will come back!

The Commandant

Posted 22 July 2010 - 10:35 AM

View Posttrojans, on Jul 21 2010, 01:18 PM, said:

If all their players stay thats a great job to have


Well as I read about all the cutbacks and anticipated cutbacks and the implications they have for public high school athletics, a truly objective coach may see the handwriting on the wall, and actually think the CMA gig might offer some plus's! CMA has been extremely successful raising funds for its entire operation lately. To some, that may be something worth pursuing!

Sportsguy

Posted 23 July 2010 - 08:45 AM

View PostmLtwo4, on Jul 21 2010, 10:33 PM, said:

I certainly don't know much when it comes to the rules that CMA has to abide by but overall I think it would be a tough gig. You either play with who you have and somewhat struggle or try to get some student athletes and face the recruiting cries. If the players stay I believe they would be solid for another year or two. Overall in the big picture though, I think it would be pretty difficult. Commandment I'd love to hear the names of the applicants if you'd be willing to share. Especially if Gordon Mosson is one of them.


That has nothing to do with separate IHSAA rules though. No one can deny CMA the right to say, "This is a great institution. You should come here for the academics (which I'm assuming is still the No. 1 priority for the admins[?]). Undue influence is undue influence, private or public. And transfers should be judged on an equal basis, which we know often they aren't because of the IHSAA's arcane system of self-policing between the two schools involved in a transfer. I would assume the cost of tuition is the most limiting factor at CMA, but I'm guessing there may be ways to help with that as well.

The Commandant

Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:09 AM

View PostSportsguy, on Jul 23 2010, 09:45 AM, said:

That has nothing to do with separate IHSAA rules though. No one can deny CMA the right to say, "This is a great institution. You should come here for the academics (which I'm assuming is still the No. 1 priority for the admins[?]). Undue influence is undue influence, private or public. And transfers should be judged on an equal basis, which we know often they aren't because of the IHSAA's arcane system of self-policing between the two schools involved in a transfer. I would assume the cost of tuition is the most limiting factor at CMA, but I'm guessing there may be ways to help with that as well.


There are not seperate IHSAA rules for CMA...I agree with that. But ML makes a good point. If CMA operates the way they did in the eighties, nineties, and half of this decade, and has a program that barely wins 10 games or less with 5 kids that can barely play intramurals at most schools, the public schools are just fine with CMA. Show up with talent, everybody screams foul! The fact is that CMA has a new massive international enrollment presence that has just now started to bring in good students that have some B-ball skills. The primary focus is still academics. Excellence in athletics is a plus but not a requirement. That does not mean if a good student applies and has athletic ability, he would be turned down to alleviate the fears of the public schools in the area. Is there possibly a grey area here?? Of course! But the passion seems to be in basketball. When a foreign girl shows up on our girls soccer team, there may be some grumbling, but people for the most part remain civil. It is the make-up of the CMA student body to have foreign kids. That is part of the mission statement! The IHSAA can amend a rule that really applies only to CMA under the claim of cleaning up transfers at all schools, but I don't know many public schools that have that market in their mission. Yet that is what appeared to have happenned here. Again, CMA in a can't win position. They probably should drop out of the IHSAA, but the administration is not in that mindset now!!

trojans

Posted 30 July 2010 - 07:15 AM

I heard Mark Galloway (former Carmel coach) and Dean Foster (former Penn coach) are finalists to get the job. Also saw Doug Snyder is going back to Argos. I love Coach snyder but he's gonna struggle there.

The Commandant

Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:30 AM

View Posttrojans, on Jul 30 2010, 08:15 AM, said:

I heard Mark Galloway (former Carmel coach) and Dean Foster (former Penn coach) are finalists to get the job. Also saw Doug Snyder is going back to Argos. I love Coach snyder but he's gonna struggle there.


Probably a stretch to call them finalists. My understanding is they aren't even done interviewing all the applicants. There was over 25 from what I heard. The 2 mentioned plus Mosson did interview. It is my understanding that the big 3 kids (Ajou, Brescasin, and Myers) will all be back. The school head is away which is probably why things haven't been whittled down yet.

mLtwo4

Posted 30 July 2010 - 11:38 AM

I saw that Todd Boldry was being considered as well. That man has applied for more positions than several people could shake a stick at.

trojans

Posted 30 July 2010 - 12:39 PM

Boldry is very entertaining to watch. I'm not sure how great of a coach he is but everytime I watch a Knox game he cracks me up. Out of the 4 names mentioned who would you prefer Commandant?

The Commandant

Posted 30 July 2010 - 01:15 PM

View Posttrojans, on Jul 30 2010, 01:39 PM, said:

Boldry is very entertaining to watch. I'm not sure how great of a coach he is but everytime I watch a Knox game he cracks me up. Out of the 4 names mentioned who would you prefer Commandant?



I think Foster or Mosson would be fine. Whoever the coach is, he's going to have some horses. May be a fear factor with Galloway and the mess he had to leave in Carmel (whether he had any fault or not) and Boldry is just kind of a mystery when you consider that Knox and that wacky radio guy over there had more to do with spreading false rumors about CMA than anybody. There are some "wildcards" in the mix which is why I am not willing to say there is even a "finalist" list yet. Plus I think CMA has to decide in hiring a coach, do they want a teacher or someone with a marketing background. Many of the coaches want to teach and right now no teaching positions are open! So who knows yet for sure!

trojans

Posted 30 July 2010 - 01:22 PM

Huss was not a teacher?

The Commandant

Posted 30 July 2010 - 02:05 PM

View Posttrojans, on Jul 30 2010, 02:22 PM, said:

Huss was not a teacher?


No he was an admissions officer. Most coaches especially the "elder statesmen" coaches in the area are not going to be interested in doing that!!!

TitanKnight

Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:23 PM

Myers will be gone to LL, Cher will be back.

The Commandant

Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:59 PM

View PostTitanKnight, on Aug 1 2010, 06:23 PM, said:

Myers will be gone to LL, Cher will be back.


Well if they don't get into gear on a new coach, that is indeed a possibility!!

Bball_fan53

Posted 03 August 2010 - 03:55 PM

Any updates on whose taking over?

The Commandant

Posted 03 August 2010 - 04:52 PM

View PostBball_fan53, on Aug 3 2010, 04:55 PM, said:

Any updates on whose taking over?


I don't think they can afford a new basketball coach based on this news release today:

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10823806/cu...e-campaign.html

Sportsguy

Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:40 PM

View PostThe Commandant, on Aug 3 2010, 05:52 PM, said:

I don't think they can afford a new basketball coach based on this news release today:

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10823806/cu...e-campaign.html


So other schools in Class 3A, namely poorer rural schools like Maconaquah, shouldn't feel threatened by CMA, a well-endowed, highly thought-of private school that provides financial aid to more than 1/3 of its students? Somehow I just don't see the balance of power the IHSAA was promising with multi-classes.

(Obviously it's much more complex than this and if anyone had read most of what I've said on the subject you'd know I understand that. Still ... c'mon ;) )

The Commandant

Posted 04 August 2010 - 07:44 AM

View PostSportsguy, on Aug 4 2010, 12:40 AM, said:

So other schools in Class 3A, namely poorer rural schools like Maconaquah, shouldn't feel threatened by CMA, a well-endowed, highly thought-of private school that provides financial aid to more than 1/3 of its students? Somehow I just don't see the balance of power the IHSAA was promising with multi-classes.

(Obviously it's much more complex than this and if anyone had read most of what I've said on the subject you'd know I understand that. Still ... c'mon ;) )


Actually, to the contrary, I don't think the Braves have anything to worry about! The most probable scenario now is that CMA will go back to the way it was. The administration is focused on fundraising and getting great students. The reason nobody has heard about a new coach is that nobody is really focused on it with all this other stuff going on. If you were a 16 year old kid that had talent, and your school couldn't get its act together on naming a new coach, what would you do? Maybe go with the old coach?? The fact is in the big picture at CMA, basketball is just a sport, not like it is in every public school where it is a passion! I don't believe there will be any extra emphasis placed on their basketball program now....just as before!!!

The Commandant

Posted 04 August 2010 - 03:20 PM

Interesting article from Indy. You can start to see the method to Huss's decision. This kid was turned down for admission by CMA:

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...AID=20108030356

trojans

Posted 04 August 2010 - 08:13 PM

I don't understand why some of these kids would transfer to a school like LaLamere. What team goals would a school like that have? You can't play for a state title.

The Commandant

Posted 04 August 2010 - 08:36 PM

View Posttrojans, on Aug 4 2010, 09:13 PM, said:

I don't understand why some of these kids would transfer to a school like LaLamere. What team goals would a school like that have? You can't play for a state title.


These kids are all positioning themselves for college offers. My understanding is that Huss got to know the adminstration at Lalumiere after Wells Davis was asked to leave CMA and they more or less recruited him (Huss) away under the intention that he won't have to follow IHSAA rules. They can now go off and play 30 games if they want to, recruit anybody they want, and yes they can't play for a state title, but they can bring their little school instant recognition with a wealth of talent that Huss obviously has the ability to provide and therefore also an attempt to get kids to want to go to school there. Actually in retrospect, it was very well played by them. Huss didn't get everything he wanted at CMA, and Lalu gave him a better venue to do what he wanted. Pretty easy to figure out now that most of the facts are in!!

semajekart

Posted 04 August 2010 - 10:41 PM

I think some of us had it pretty much figured out a while ago.

The Commandant

Posted 05 August 2010 - 07:25 AM

View Postsemajekart, on Aug 4 2010, 11:41 PM, said:

I think some of us had it pretty much figured out a while ago.


Wow you Triton guys are so clairevoyant...kinda helps when you got a pipeline to Tommy, doesn't it?? LOL.......

Sportsguy

Posted 05 August 2010 - 01:01 PM

View PostThe Commandant, on Aug 4 2010, 08:44 AM, said:

Actually, to the contrary, I don't think the Braves have anything to worry about! The most probable scenario now is that CMA will go back to the way it was. The administration is focused on fundraising and getting great students. The reason nobody has heard about a new coach is that nobody is really focused on it with all this other stuff going on. If you were a 16 year old kid that had talent, and your school couldn't get its act together on naming a new coach, what would you do? Maybe go with the old coach?? The fact is in the big picture at CMA, basketball is just a sport, not like it is in every public school where it is a passion! I don't believe there will be any extra emphasis placed on their basketball program now....just as before!!!


Thanks for your comments, Commandment. I appreciate your insights. Please understand, I don't fear and actually quite welcome all of the changes that have been afoot with regards to school choice and what some believe will lead to all-out recruiting wars. In fact, both of my school-age children will be going to different schools this fall, based upon the choices my wife and I made. It does, however, undermine even more any confidence I had in the class system currently in use that relies solely on enrollment and not one of many other possibly more important factors that could be used to determine classes. That is why (and I'm saying this to anyone, not just you) I bring these things up.

semajekart

Posted 05 August 2010 - 02:18 PM

View PostThe Commandant, on Aug 5 2010, 08:25 AM, said:

Wow you Triton guys are so clairevoyant...kinda helps when you got a pipeline to Tommy, doesn't it?? LOL.......



oh ya, that's it ;)

mLtwo4

Posted 05 August 2010 - 04:13 PM

View PostThe Commandant, on Aug 5 2010, 08:25 AM, said:

Wow you Triton guys are so clairevoyant...kinda helps when you got a pipeline to Tommy, doesn't it?? LOL.......



He has what to do with this? Besides leaving there for whatever reasons and being part of a State Championship team.

The Commandant

Posted 05 August 2010 - 04:48 PM

View PostmLtwo4, on Aug 5 2010, 05:13 PM, said:

He has what to do with this? Besides leaving there for whatever reasons and being part of a State Championship team.


Yes, that was a sweet deal for "an extremely reliable source "!!
Actually ML, if your JV coach this winter, I will stop by and say hello sometime!!

The Commandant

Posted 05 August 2010 - 08:11 PM

View PostSportsguy, on Aug 5 2010, 02:01 PM, said:

Thanks for your comments, Commandment. I appreciate your insights. Please understand, I don't fear and actually quite welcome all of the changes that have been afoot with regards to school choice and what some believe will lead to all-out recruiting wars. In fact, both of my school-age children will be going to different schools this fall, based upon the choices my wife and I made. It does, however, undermine even more any confidence I had in the class system currently in use that relies solely on enrollment and not one of many other possibly more important factors that could be used to determine classes. That is why (and I'm saying this to anyone, not just you) I bring these things up.


Well CMA is and always will be a different school no doubt. But the incredible ability to offer 1/3 of its student body financial aid is an amazing thing in todays world. The shame is that not more parents from Indiana and the midwest don't take advantage of that for their children and their children's education. You know its just as easy for an Indiana kid to apply for that aid as a Canadian or a Korean kid. But we know what would happen if the Indiana kid did that...scandal, IHSAA inquiries, dirty pool, foul, etc!! Especially if he was an athlete! Lot of good things going on at Culver as you might have guessed from the article. Thanks for your input and good luck to Maconaquah...we used to play you guys reguarly in football! Miss that game.....

mLtwo4

Posted 05 August 2010 - 09:39 PM

View PostThe Commandant, on Aug 5 2010, 05:48 PM, said:

Yes, that was a sweet deal for "an extremely reliable source "!!
Actually ML, if your JV coach this winter, I will stop by and say hello sometime!!


He wasn't who I was referring to in that post. I was referring to the man that is still there now and above me. It looks like I'll have that position. That'd be great if you did I'd love to shoot the breeze about basketball and what not with you. PM me sometime if you'd like.

The Commandant

Posted 06 August 2010 - 07:49 AM

View PostmLtwo4, on Aug 5 2010, 10:39 PM, said:

He wasn't who I was referring to in that post. I was referring to the man that is still there now and above me. It looks like I'll have that position. That'd be great if you did I'd love to shoot the breeze about basketball and what not with you. PM me sometime if you'd like.


Same thing..same pipeline! Its cool, everybody involved are decent folks! Not everything discussed is ever completely accurate but I think were all on the same page here........

PS: Saw Brescasin out on the football field today so he is back!!

Sportsguy

Posted 09 August 2010 - 11:53 AM

View PostThe Commandant, on Aug 5 2010, 09:11 PM, said:

... Thanks for your input and good luck to Maconaquah...we used to play you guys reguarly in football! Miss that game.....


Yeah, I'm sure many schools are trying to get Maconaquah on their schedules these days, especially for Homecoming! Not much positive happening up there right now. I actually cover all of the MIC plus Kokomo and a few other area schools (12 or 13 total in our Koko Trib territory). I also keep one eye open for Waverly Neer up there, as I know her dad from his time at Western. It's a beautiful campus and I enjoy the drive up for XC regional every year now. Good luck.

The Commandant

Posted 10 August 2010 - 02:34 PM

View PostTitanKnight, on Aug 1 2010, 06:23 PM, said:

Myers will be gone to LL, Cher will be back.


Chier, Brescasin, and Myers all back to CMA. Nice nucleus for a new coach. Still don't know who that is going to be!! Nice to see them choose academics and total school life and future over coach and just basketball!!

The Commandant

Posted 17 August 2010 - 02:25 PM

View PostThe Commandant, on Aug 10 2010, 03:34 PM, said:

Chier, Brescasin, and Myers all back to CMA. Nice nucleus for a new coach. Still don't know who that is going to be!! Nice to see them choose academics and total school life and future over coach and just basketball!!



Hickory Husker is stating that Mark Galloway has indeed been named CMA's new basketball coach!

trojans

Posted 17 August 2010 - 02:51 PM

Good for him.

The Commandant

Posted 22 August 2010 - 11:55 AM

" I was told from an extremely reliable source that any new player to CMA that wasn't a freshman wasn't going to be eligible to play. Not sure how that would work since it happens basically evrywhere else. "


Found out this weekend that this rule change was rescinded by the IHSAA pending review so now these students are once again eligible to play. Don't really get myself what has been going on, but its good for us, so I am not gonna complain!