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making a list of the best 50 Indiana high school basketball players of all time.looking for more than just names.include high school stats, achievements.also college and pro careers.

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Not many stats but I'm sure they are out there for someone to find, but I have to go with my buddy Clyde Lovellette of Terre Haute Garfield, 1948. Was a state finalist in '47, went onto play with distinction at Kansas, led the nation in scoring and led the Jayhawks to an NCAA crown, won a gold medal in 1952 and played in the pros with Minneapolis, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Boston. Had 11,947 career points with a 17.0 ppg and 9.5 rpg average. One of only a handful to be inducted into the Indiana and Naismith halls of fame. Named one of Indiana's 50 Greatest in 1999. Returned to Indiana and served as sheriff of Vigo County I believe and later came to White's to coach basketball. Retired and lives in the U.P.

Edit: Oh, and the three on the left there aren't bad either :angry:

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You would probably get everyone to agree on the top ones but after about 20 or so there will be disagreement as to who belongs.

Wooden

Vandiver

Rayl

Mount

Benson

Alford

Tom and Dick VanArsdale

B. Shepherd

Bailey

Bird

McGinnis

Gordon

Oden

Robertson

Skiles

....... these are just off the top of my head and would probably be on everyone's list.

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making a list of the best 50 Indiana high school basketball players of all time.looking for more than just names.include high school stats, achievements.also college and pro careers.

The problem you face is that the game has changed over time...prior to WWII the game was slow paced in comparison to today's game. Because of this the players from the pre-1950 era do not have the statistical numbers of some of the more recent players but may have, in fact, been more dominant in their era (For example Fuzzy Vandeveer or John Wooden).

My contribution from the 1930's is Dave DeJernett

Dave DeJernett graduated from Washington High School in 1931. The 6-5 center scored 607

points during his 3 seasons on varsity at WHS. He led the Hatchets to the 1930 state title and

was named First Team All-State 3 times. In the 1930 championship game against Muncie

Central, Washington was down 14-12 at the half. Hall of Fame Coach Burl Friddle told Dave

that if he could control the tips in the second half, WHS would win. Big Dave (who was only

6-3 his junior year) won the center-jump time after time against Muncie’s 6-6 Jack Mann and

the Hatchets went on to defeat the Bearcats, 32-21. With this championship, Dave became the

first black basketball player to win an undisputed state title in Indiana (and probably the

nation). Initially considering professional boxing after his high school graduation, Dave went

on to earn 9 letters at Indiana Central College (now the University of Indianapolis) in

basketball, track and football. He was a 2-time College All-State selection and scored 506

points during his 4 years at ICC. He ran the dashes and threw the shot put and discus for the

Greyhounds’ track team. Dave was the state’s first dominant black collegiate basketball player

and was inducted into the University of Indianapolis Hall of Fame in 1993. Dave’s 1934 ICC

Greyhound team was inducted into the hall in 2005.

After graduating from college in 1935, Dave played semi-pro basketball for the Muncie

Monarchs. Later he played professional basketball for the New York Renaissance, Chicago

Crusaders and the Harlem Globetrotters. His pro career ended when he joined the Army in 1942. After serving in Africa and Europe during World War II, Dave lived in Indianapolis until his death in 1964.

Dave was inducted into the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame in 1976.

Article from hatchets.net

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The problem you face is that the game has changed over time...prior to WWII the game was slow paced in comparison to today's game. Because of this the players from the pre-1950 era do not have the statistical numbers of some of the more recent players but may have, in fact, been more dominant in their era (For example Fuzzy Vandeveer or John Wooden).

My contribution from the 1930's is Dave DeJernett

Dave DeJernett graduated from Washington High School in 1931. The 6-5 center scored 607

points during his 3 seasons on varsity at WHS. He led the Hatchets to the 1930 state title and

was named First Team All-State 3 times. In the 1930 championship game against Muncie

Central, Washington was down 14-12 at the half. Hall of Fame Coach Burl Friddle told Dave

that if he could control the tips in the second half, WHS would win. Big Dave (who was only

6-3 his junior year) won the center-jump time after time against Muncie's 6-6 Jack Mann and

the Hatchets went on to defeat the Bearcats, 32-21. With this championship, Dave became the

first black basketball player to win an undisputed state title in Indiana (and probably the

nation). Initially considering professional boxing after his high school graduation, Dave went

on to earn 9 letters at Indiana Central College (now the University of Indianapolis) in

basketball, track and football. He was a 2-time College All-State selection and scored 506

points during his 4 years at ICC. He ran the dashes and threw the shot put and discus for the

Greyhounds' track team. Dave was the state's first dominant black collegiate basketball player

and was inducted into the University of Indianapolis Hall of Fame in 1993. Dave's 1934 ICC

Greyhound team was inducted into the hall in 2005.

After graduating from college in 1935, Dave played semi-pro basketball for the Muncie

Monarchs. Later he played professional basketball for the New York Renaissance, Chicago

Crusaders and the Harlem Globetrotters. His pro career ended when he joined the Army in 1942. After serving in Africa and Europe during World War II, Dave lived in Indianapolis until his death in 1964.

Dave was inducted into the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame in 1976.

Article from hatchets.net

Did anyone else see that one coming?

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Did anyone else see that one coming?

Lionbacker, I think most of us on this board have had enough of your idiotic comments. If you don't have an interest in the thread, don't read it.

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Did anyone else see that one coming?

You going to give someone a nod or not?

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The Big "O" Oscar Robertson was the best player that I've ever seen in Indiana, followed by George McGinnis.

Rick Mount was the best shooter that I've ever seen in the State, closely followed by Jimmy Rayl and Ray Pavey.

Lots of great players in the long history of Indiana basketball.

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Well known trivia........... Oscar is the only player in NBA history to AVERAGE a triple double for an entire season !!!

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OK. Glen Robinson. He's not from Washington so some of you might not have ever heard of him, but he was pretty good.

Lionbacker, you are easily the biggest jerk on here. Why don't you go back to your sad, pathetic little town and support your 2-9 basketball team. Good luck on Saturday night against Barr-Reeve......that should be a thrashing of Washington proportions.

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How about the Vanarsdale twins?

Before my time, but, need props as well.

Also, Edwards and Jones from Marion.

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OK. Glen Robinson. He's not from Washington so some of you might not have ever heard of him, but he was pretty good.

Backer it is "Glenn" BTW. He still player for the black and gold when up against Alan Henderson..both had marginal NBA careers.

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IPS Representatives

Frank Kendrick-Indiana All Star, All American at Purdue, NBA World Champion

Billy Keller-Mr. BBall,All B10 team at Purdue, ABA Champion

Oscar Robertson-Best Basketball Player in the history of the game

George McGinnis

Landon Turner

Van Arsdel Twins

Willie Merriweather

Jim Price and his brother whose name is slipping my mind

Hallie Bryant

Anyone I leave out?

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IPS Representatives

Frank Kendrick-Indiana All Star, All American at Purdue, NBA World Champion

Billy Keller-Mr. BBall,All B10 team at Purdue, ABA Champion

Oscar Robertson-Best Basketball Player in the history of the game

George McGinnis

Landon Turner

Van Arsdel Twins

Willie Merriweather

Jim Price and his brother whose name is slipping my mind

Hallie Bryant

Anyone I leave out?

This is what I was talking about. Many of these names are marginal and there would be good arguments BOTH ways as to if they were indeed top 50 material.

Kendrick, Keller, Turner, Merriweather, Price (brother was Mike BTW) all very good players but may or may not be top 50.

The Pacers did a top 50 when Conseco opened. Anyone know where that list is?

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Alan Henderson, Larry Bird, Oscar Robertson, Michael Lewis, Damon Bailey, Calbert Chaney, Shawn Kemp, Greg Oden, Mike Conley, Eric Gordon, Sean May, Jarred Jefferies, Marion Pierce, Steve Alford, Glen Robinson, Rick Mount, John Wooden, Chris Thomas, Jason Gardner, George McGInnis, Luke Recker, Eric Montross, Jay Edwards, VanArsdale's

Edited by hoosiers88

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What about Kyle Macy from Peru? He went on to play college at the University of Kentucky, even winning a National Title in 1978. He still holds the career free throw percentage record at UK, and the Phoenix Suns franchise record.

Also, Rick Fox from Warsaw.

Edited by zebraboiler24

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Greg Oden

Mike Conley (Maybe)

The Graves brothers from WRV (At least AJ)

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This is what I was talking about. Many of these names are marginal and there would be good arguments BOTH ways as to if they were indeed top 50 material.

Kendrick, Keller, Turner, Merriweather, Price (brother was Mike BTW) all very good players but may or may not be top 50.

The Pacers did a top 50 when Conseco opened. Anyone know where that list is?

I don't know where the list is and I couldn't find it. There were a few gals on it as well.

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Might want to add John Stewart as well. Before his untimely passing he was a force to be reckoned with. Was going to a good Kentucky team and who knows what he could have accomplished.

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Found it! Here is the "Top 50" in conjunction with the opening of Conseco Fieldhouse:

(minus those who did not play HS BBL in Indiana)

Charles Murphy Kent Benson

Larry Bird Kyle Macy Ron Bonham Shawn Kemp Randy Wittman

Rick Mount Bob Leonard Jerry Sloan Dick Van Arsdale Louis Dampier Billy Keller

Willie Meriweather R.P. Vandivier Damon Bailey

Bobby Plump Bill Garrett Scott Skiles

Alan Henderson Willie Gardner Don Buse Oscar Robertson Jimmy Rayl

Tom Van Arsdale Hallie Bryant Johnny Wilson Billy Shepherd

Homer Stonebraker

Steve Alford Jon McGlocklin John Wooden Glenn Robinson George McGinnis

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Found it! Here is the "Top 50" in conjunction with the opening of Conseco Fieldhouse:

(minus those who did not play HS BBL in Indiana)

Charles Murphy Kent Benson

Larry Bird Kyle Macy Ron Bonham Shawn Kemp Randy Wittman

Rick Mount Bob Leonard Jerry Sloan Dick Van Arsdale Louis Dampier Billy Keller

Willie Meriweather R.P. Vandivier Damon Bailey

Bobby Plump Bill Garrett Scott Skiles

Alan Henderson Willie Gardner Don Buse Oscar Robertson Jimmy Rayl

Tom Van Arsdale Hallie Bryant Johnny Wilson Billy Shepherd

Homer Stonebraker

Steve Alford Jon McGlocklin John Wooden Glenn Robinson George McGinnis

Clyde Lovellette should be on this list.

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Clyde Lovellette should be on this list.

Actually he was but I took him off. My quick editing decided he did not play HS BBL in Indiana. But he DID! TH Garfield. Was he a HS teammate of Bobby Leonard?

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