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#1 chad giantfan

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 08:55 AM

making a list of the best 50 Indiana high school basketball players of all time.looking for more than just names.include high school stats, achievements.also college and pro careers.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 09:55 AM

Not many stats but I'm sure they are out there for someone to find, but I have to go with my buddy Clyde Lovellette of Terre Haute Garfield, 1948. Was a state finalist in '47, went onto play with distinction at Kansas, led the nation in scoring and led the Jayhawks to an NCAA crown, won a gold medal in 1952 and played in the pros with Minneapolis, Cincinnati, St. Louis and Boston. Had 11,947 career points with a 17.0 ppg and 9.5 rpg average. One of only a handful to be inducted into the Indiana and Naismith halls of fame. Named one of Indiana's 50 Greatest in 1999. Returned to Indiana and served as sheriff of Vigo County I believe and later came to White's to coach basketball. Retired and lives in the U.P.

Edit: Oh, and the three on the left there aren't bad either :angry:

Edited by Sportsguy, 08 January 2008 - 09:56 AM.


#3 staxawax

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 02:38 PM

You would probably get everyone to agree on the top ones but after about 20 or so there will be disagreement as to who belongs.

Wooden
Vandiver
Rayl
Mount
Benson
Alford
Tom and Dick VanArsdale
B. Shepherd
Bailey
Bird
McGinnis
Gordon
Oden
Robertson
Skiles

....... these are just off the top of my head and would probably be on everyone's list.

Edited by staxawax, 09 January 2008 - 01:36 PM.


#4 OldHatchet

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 03:12 PM

making a list of the best 50 Indiana high school basketball players of all time.looking for more than just names.include high school stats, achievements.also college and pro careers.


The problem you face is that the game has changed over time...prior to WWII the game was slow paced in comparison to today's game. Because of this the players from the pre-1950 era do not have the statistical numbers of some of the more recent players but may have, in fact, been more dominant in their era (For example Fuzzy Vandeveer or John Wooden).
My contribution from the 1930's is Dave DeJernett

Dave DeJernett graduated from Washington High School in 1931. The 6-5 center scored 607
points during his 3 seasons on varsity at WHS. He led the Hatchets to the 1930 state title and
was named First Team All-State 3 times. In the 1930 championship game against Muncie
Central, Washington was down 14-12 at the half. Hall of Fame Coach Burl Friddle told Dave
that if he could control the tips in the second half, WHS would win. Big Dave (who was only
6-3 his junior year) won the center-jump time after time against Muncie’s 6-6 Jack Mann and
the Hatchets went on to defeat the Bearcats, 32-21. With this championship, Dave became the
first black basketball player to win an undisputed state title in Indiana (and probably the
nation). Initially considering professional boxing after his high school graduation, Dave went
on to earn 9 letters at Indiana Central College (now the University of Indianapolis) in
basketball, track and football. He was a 2-time College All-State selection and scored 506
points during his 4 years at ICC. He ran the dashes and threw the shot put and discus for the
Greyhounds’ track team. Dave was the state’s first dominant black collegiate basketball player
and was inducted into the University of Indianapolis Hall of Fame in 1993. Dave’s 1934 ICC
Greyhound team was inducted into the hall in 2005.
After graduating from college in 1935, Dave played semi-pro basketball for the Muncie
Monarchs. Later he played professional basketball for the New York Renaissance, Chicago
Crusaders and the Harlem Globetrotters. His pro career ended when he joined the Army in 1942. After serving in Africa and Europe during World War II, Dave lived in Indianapolis until his death in 1964.
Dave was inducted into the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame in 1976.

Article from hatchets.net

#5 SycamoreSam

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 07:24 PM

Sean May
Jared Jeffries
Zach Randolph

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 07:39 AM

The problem you face is that the game has changed over time...prior to WWII the game was slow paced in comparison to today's game. Because of this the players from the pre-1950 era do not have the statistical numbers of some of the more recent players but may have, in fact, been more dominant in their era (For example Fuzzy Vandeveer or John Wooden).
My contribution from the 1930's is Dave DeJernett

Dave DeJernett graduated from Washington High School in 1931. The 6-5 center scored 607
points during his 3 seasons on varsity at WHS. He led the Hatchets to the 1930 state title and
was named First Team All-State 3 times. In the 1930 championship game against Muncie
Central, Washington was down 14-12 at the half. Hall of Fame Coach Burl Friddle told Dave
that if he could control the tips in the second half, WHS would win. Big Dave (who was only
6-3 his junior year) won the center-jump time after time against Muncie's 6-6 Jack Mann and
the Hatchets went on to defeat the Bearcats, 32-21. With this championship, Dave became the
first black basketball player to win an undisputed state title in Indiana (and probably the
nation). Initially considering professional boxing after his high school graduation, Dave went
on to earn 9 letters at Indiana Central College (now the University of Indianapolis) in
basketball, track and football. He was a 2-time College All-State selection and scored 506
points during his 4 years at ICC. He ran the dashes and threw the shot put and discus for the
Greyhounds' track team. Dave was the state's first dominant black collegiate basketball player
and was inducted into the University of Indianapolis Hall of Fame in 1993. Dave's 1934 ICC
Greyhound team was inducted into the hall in 2005.
After graduating from college in 1935, Dave played semi-pro basketball for the Muncie
Monarchs. Later he played professional basketball for the New York Renaissance, Chicago
Crusaders and the Harlem Globetrotters. His pro career ended when he joined the Army in 1942. After serving in Africa and Europe during World War II, Dave lived in Indianapolis until his death in 1964.
Dave was inducted into the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame in 1976.

Article from hatchets.net


Did anyone else see that one coming?

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#7 hatchettrain

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 08:08 AM

Did anyone else see that one coming?


Lionbacker, I think most of us on this board have had enough of your idiotic comments. If you don't have an interest in the thread, don't read it.

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 08:08 AM

Did anyone else see that one coming?



You going to give someone a nod or not?

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 08:27 AM

The Big "O" Oscar Robertson was the best player that I've ever seen in Indiana, followed by George McGinnis.
Rick Mount was the best shooter that I've ever seen in the State, closely followed by Jimmy Rayl and Ray Pavey.
Lots of great players in the long history of Indiana basketball.
Try never to absolutize the periphery!

#10 staxawax

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 08:37 AM

Well known trivia........... Oscar is the only player in NBA history to AVERAGE a triple double for an entire season !!!

Edited by staxawax, 09 January 2008 - 08:38 AM.





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